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[Costco] TCL 6 Series 65-in/55-in. 4K HDR Roku Smart TV with Dolby Vision 65R613CA $829/$599 Shipped

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DOES anyone know how to get my Seriers 4 TV to work with Alexa my Fire TV Cube? I'm not sure how to set it up??
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I'm really. Enjoying this Tcl 65. I was struggling with the 2018 lg I had before. I was planning to get a new tv next year, but I don't regret buying it this year. Excellent Quality for the price. Interesting how much better it sound and integrates with the sound bar I had
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I know it’s not TCL but I thought it’s still the best place to ask, anyone know if Costco will still be carrying Vizio’s? Haven’t seen anything for Vizio in store or online in a while, they’re not even carrying the sound bars online now.
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number17 wrote: On paper it is. You get a 120Hz panel (Not 4k@120Hz, but HD@120Hz), you get micro LED. That alone is worth the $500 premium (assuming you CAN take advantage of these features)
can you explain this whole 120Hz thing? Theres some tvs that have 240Hz CMI refresh rate but the real rate is 60hz or something. This whole thing is super confusing. Is it 120hz, is it 240 hz, or is it 60hz??
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blaznazn22 wrote: can you explain this whole 120Hz thing? Theres some tvs that have 240Hz CMI refresh rate but the real rate is 60hz or something. This whole thing is super confusing. Is it 120hz, is it 240 hz, or is it 60hz??
So many TV's post their 'smooth motion' (or whatever marketing term) is 120Hz, what they mean is using software processing they can make the motion look like 120Hz TV's smooth motion (and most of the times it doesn't work at all). And then some TV's claim they can do it even better using software processing to make it look like 240Hz.

What REALLY matters is if the TV panel is 60Hz or 120Hz. What TV manufacturers usually do on 60Hz TV's is market them as 120Hz motion, and then they market 120Hz panels as 240Hz motion. It's just marketing fluff and super confusing. Just go with what the panel is.

And the 2020 TCL 6 series (R625?) is 120Hz panel, compared to the Hisense H7G/H8G which is 60Hz. Of course, the new price of the TCL R625 actually puts it much closer to the Hisense H9G, which has a 120Hz panel.

And ALL THAT SAID, you gotta make sure your source actually has a 120Hz output, or else it doesn't even matter.
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EleventhDoctor wrote: I know it’s not TCL but I thought it’s still the best place to ask, anyone know if Costco will still be carrying Vizio’s? Haven’t seen anything for Vizio in store or online in a while, they’re not even carrying the sound bars online now.
Interested in knowing the same. Really looking forward to their new oled.

By the way it's on bestbuy.Com now available for preorder. I know that's in the U.S., but it's the first I've seen it.
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I know for hisense, last year's model that had a 120hz panel also had less dirty screen effect for some reason. I'll be keeping a close eye on this 2020 TCL 6 model.
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Greg8642 wrote: Interested in knowing the same. Really looking forward to their new oled.

By the way it's on bestbuy.Com now available for preorder. I know that's in the U.S., but it's the first I've seen it.
Listed for $2000 usd, that’s not that much cheaper than LG c9 or cx at $2100 and $2500 respectively.
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number17 wrote: So many TV's post their 'smooth motion' (or whatever marketing term) is 120Hz, what they mean is using software processing they can make the motion look like 120Hz TV's smooth motion (and most of the times it doesn't work at all). And then some TV's claim they can do it even better using software processing to make it look like 240Hz.

What REALLY matters is if the TV panel is 60Hz or 120Hz. What TV manufacturers usually do on 60Hz TV's is market them as 120Hz motion, and then they market 120Hz panels as 240Hz motion. It's just marketing fluff and super confusing. Just go with what the panel is.

And the 2020 TCL 6 series (R625?) is 120Hz panel, compared to the Hisense H7G/H8G which is 60Hz. Of course, the new price of the TCL R625 actually puts it much closer to the Hisense H9G, which has a 120Hz panel.

And ALL THAT SAID, you gotta make sure your source actually has a 120Hz output, or else it doesn't even matter.
Thanks for explaining. So if the marketing term smooth motion is 240Hz then the true refresh rate of the panel is 120Hz, and if 120hz smooth motion, then the true rate is 60Hz? Is it possible for a true 60Hz panel to ramp up to 240Hz with the software? How do you find the real refresh rate of a TV, it feels like the manufacturers are trying to hide this information as much as possible.

I heard the new tcl 5 series also has a 120Hz panel. Any ideas on the quality of that TV?
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blaznazn22 wrote: I heard the new tcl 5 series also has a 120Hz panel. Any ideas on the quality of that TV?

The 5 series is 60Hz
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Spidersnake wrote: The 5 series is 60Hz
Wow thanks...they only listed the fake refresh rate on bestbuy. What a joke. So I guess the cheapest 4k true 120Hz 55+ inch TV is still around $1200??
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crimsondr wrote: Would this TV work well in a bright room with lots of sunlight? What about the 2020 6 series?
Yes they absolutely will - the 6 series is extremely bright.
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rexplosive wrote: The 2020 TCL 120hz 6 series would be
Yes, but that one will be selling in Canada in 2022.
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grca73 wrote: Yes, but that one will be selling in Canada in 2022.
It's being released this year, most likely fall.
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Honestly, I haven't looked at refresh rate when buying TV's for the past 3+ years. It's way down on my buying checklist because it makes very little difference to picture quality. Especially because of the clear motion BS that has gone and mucked everything up. The "soap opera effect" is not for me. Modern consoles don't support 120 Hz (And certainly not 120 fps in games), and any modern mid-range TV should do accurate 3:2 pulldown and be able to run 24 fps video at 60 Hz almost indistinguishably from 120 Hz.

So, what are people wanting 120 Hz for? Hooking up their computer? Many PC's don't support 120 Hz on TV's well. Movies? Again, good 60 Hz TV's handle video fine with no issues.

Much higher on the list for me are: local dimming performance (edge lit: bad, local dimming with 60+ zones = better), colour performance and accuracy (things like quantum dots make a HUGE difference to picture quality, and having a good quality panel that covers 95%+ of the DCI P3 colour gamut, and 80%+ of REC 2020 is much more important to me than 120 Hz). Features like Dolby Vision, and HDR performance also matter to me, in particular for HDR - sustained brightness at various settings, see the Rtings reviews for a breakdown:
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/tcl/6 ... -r625-2019
You want a panel that can do at least 500-700 cd/m² for a 2%/10% window as HDR10 spec is 1000cd/m² sustained brightness, which very few TV's actually support even now.

There are lots of mid-end TV's that are 120 Hz that are mediocre TV's like Samsung's 8000 series (nu8000, tu8000, etc.). Better to get something with FALD (full array local dimming), QLED (quantum dots for colour) like Vizio M series Quantum or the new TCL's or Hisense with FALD and quantum dots. The new TCL tv's with "mini-LED" backlight is like FALD on steroids: 1000 dimming zones, and 2-3x the peak brightness in some cases (Which is why people are getting so excited for them). Speaking of colour, the Samsung KS8000 series of 2016 had quantum dots before pulling them entirely from their mainstream LED series and introducing the overpriced "Q" series, in what I consider the ultimate bait and switch.
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Now, I will say that if you're buying a new HDMI 2.1 TV like the 2020 TCL's or some of the new Sony's and most other brands of 2020/2021 screens, having 120 Hz along with VRR (variable refresh rate) support in HDMI 2.1 will be very nice. 120Hz & VRR support is baked in to the next gen of consoles; it will be a noticeable improvement.


TL;DR - go for colour accuracy, good HDR brightness, full array local dimming (FALD) or (even better) mini-LED, and features like Dolby Vision over 120Hz in current-gen TV's for the best bang for your buck. And QLED > 120 Hz any day.
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grca73 wrote: Yes, but that one will be selling in Canada in 2022.
It's already on sale. Expected delivery dates are in October
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jiffylube1024 wrote: Honestly, I haven't looked at refresh rate when buying TV's for the past 3+ years. It's way down on my buying checklist because it makes very little difference to picture quality. Especially because of the clear motion BS that has gone and mucked everything up. The "soap opera effect" is not for me. Modern consoles don't support 120 Hz (And certainly not 120 fps in games), and any modern mid-range TV should do accurate 3:2 pulldown and be able to run 24 fps video at 60 Hz almost indistinguishably from 120 Hz.

So, what are people wanting 120 Hz for? Hooking up their computer? Many PC's don't support 120 Hz on TV's well. Movies? Again, good 60 Hz TV's handle video fine with no issues.

Much higher on the list for me are: local dimming performance (edge lit: bad, local dimming with 60+ zones = better), colour performance and accuracy (things like quantum dots make a HUGE difference to picture quality, and having a good quality panel that covers 95%+ of the DCI P3 colour gamut, and 80%+ of REC 2020 is much more important to me than 120 Hz). Features like Dolby Vision, and HDR performance also matter to me, in particular for HDR - sustained brightness at various settings, see the Rtings reviews for a breakdown:
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/tcl/6 ... -r625-2019
You want a panel that can do at least 500-700 cd/m² for a 2%/10% window as HDR10 spec is 1000cd/m² sustained brightness, which very few TV's actually support even now.

There are lots of mid-end TV's that are 120 Hz that are mediocre TV's like Samsung's 8000 series (nu8000, tu8000, etc.). Better to get something with FALD (full array local dimming), QLED (quantum dots for colour) like Vizio M series Quantum or the new TCL's or Hisense with FALD and quantum dots. The new TCL tv's with "mini-LED" backlight is like FALD on steroids: 1000 dimming zones, and 2-3x the peak brightness in some cases (Which is why people are getting so excited for them). Speaking of colour, the Samsung KS8000 series of 2016 had quantum dots before pulling them entirely from their mainstream LED series and introducing the overpriced "Q" series, in what I consider the ultimate bait and switch.
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Now, I will say that if you're buying a new HDMI 2.1 TV like the 2020 TCL's or some of the new Sony's and most other brands of 2020/2021 screens, having 120 Hz along with VRR (variable refresh rate) support in HDMI 2.1 will be very nice. 120Hz & VRR support is baked in to the next gen of consoles; it will be a noticeable improvement.


TL;DR - go for colour accuracy, good HDR brightness, full array local dimming (FALD) or (even better) mini-LED, and features like Dolby Vision over 120Hz in current-gen TV's for the best bang for your buck. And QLED > 120 Hz any day.
I saw few comments like 120hz @ 4k or bust on another forum. Like dude, to even get those numbers on a rig today you need NVlink dual 2080ti's. Response was, "I'm going to get the 3080ti when it comes out". Clearly, price isn't an issue.
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After seeing this post I decided to return my brand new Hisense R6, was never quite sure it looked 4K like i expected. Decided to spend the extra $200 for the TCL and it was well worth the money, even my kids notice the difference!

My question is about the warranty. Everyone always says get the costco warranty, only $60 for another 3 years. But most reviews I've read about Asurion (Costco's warranty) have said DON'T DO IT. I've seen a number of complaints about how difficult it is to actually make a claim on the warranty.

Would love to hear other feedback, positive and negative.
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sliu070 wrote: Listed for $2000 usd, that’s not that much cheaper than LG c9 or cx at $2100 and $2500 respectively.
Yeah but that's reg price. I'm looking forward to black Friday/boxing day sales. It could be less than $2000 CAD then.

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