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Is COVID Alert app still relevant?

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Is COVID Alert app still relevant?

Is COVID Alert app still relevant? It seems forgotten. Does anyone know if the criteria in it are still the same, like 15 min exposure? That's useless for the delta which can infect in 1-2 min. Are people still given codes to enter into it? I haven't heard any mention of this app in the news or anywhere for the past many months. It's still updated though on Android.
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According to the in-app alert, it was retired on June 30, 2021.
Canada COVID-19.jpg

ETA: My mistake, read again and you are talking about the separate COVID Alert app. I have nothing to contribute regarding that.
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Curiousah wrote: According to the in-app alert, it was retired on June 30, 2021.

ETA: My mistake, read again and you are talking about the separate COVID Alert app. I have nothing to contribute regarding that.
What was that Canada COVID-19 app? I've never heard of it.
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Here's some data about how much it's being used:

https://data.ontario.ca/dataset/covid-alert-impact-data

According to this (https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadaCoronavi ... cases_149/),

*Positives Uploaded to app in last day/week/month/since launch: 5 / 21 / 87 / 24,109 (2.4% / 1.5% / 1.7% / 4.7% of all cases)
*App downloads in last day/week/month/since launch: 567 / 3,647 / 15,815 / 2,801,291 (50.2% / 50.7% / 52.3% / 42.3% Android share)

Seems like it's still being used.
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Planker wrote: Here's some data about how much it's being used:

https://data.ontario.ca/dataset/covid-alert-impact-data

According to this (https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadaCoronavi ... cases_149/),

*Positives Uploaded to app in last day/week/month/since launch: 5 / 21 / 87 / 24,109 (2.4% / 1.5% / 1.7% / 4.7% of all cases)
*App downloads in last day/week/month/since launch: 567 / 3,647 / 15,815 / 2,801,291 (50.2% / 50.7% / 52.3% / 42.3% Android share)

Seems like it's still being used.
It's been used but is it useful? Only in Ontario there were a minimum of 1000 cases in any given week in the past but only 21 cases entered into the app. It doesn't matter if many people download the app, it matter how many people enter their cases into it. Otherwise, it's just a piece of junk software.

Any indication if a 15 minute minimum contact time is still used by the app as a criterion for alert? It makes it double-useless in cases with delta.
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blueraindrop wrote: In Western Australia they launched a similar contact tracing app in November 2020.
Now, they found that the information collected was also used for other purposes than contact tracing, with 6 requests being made by the police.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/auditor-f ... -at-launch
Then it's not similar. The Canadian app can't be used like this. Read about how it works.
P.S. The Canadian app does not allow for tracing.
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blueraindrop wrote: In Western Australia they launched a similar contact tracing app in November 2020.
Now, they found that the information collected was also used for other purposes than contact tracing, with 6 requests being made by the police.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/auditor-f ... -at-launch
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alpovs wrote: What was that Canada COVID-19 app? I've never heard of it.
I feel like an Amazon reviewer who didn't actually buy the product on this thread, sorry, but I barely opened this app...checked regional stats and theoretically it could have been used for national announcements?
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I think now we can say it's totally irrelevant. Right?
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alpovs wrote: I think now we can say it's totally irrelevant. Right?
it never was relevant, like many things the Fed Gov't has done
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redsfan wrote: it never was relevant, like many things the Fed Gov't has done
I disagree. It was relevant earlier depending on where you live and people living there.
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alpovs wrote: I disagree. It was relevant earlier depending on where you live and people living there.
always depended upon people inputting their info into the app did it not?...never made sense to me
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alpovs wrote: I disagree. It was relevant earlier depending on where you live and people living there.
I revisted the link to data @Planker posted in #4 above.
It does show a surge of 900+ cases daily in December with >38K cases reported in total.
A drop in the bucket to overall cases.

It may not be an effective tool in controlling spread but the data may still be relavant to someone.
After receiving notification of exposure early on in the pandemic, I've been reluctant to uninstall it, just in case someone might do their part. People are still getting notifications.

OTOH, with the changes to the qualifications on who can get tested only a certain portion of the population can get tested. A positive test result is required to get a code to input into the app. This might explain why the notification numbers drop towards the end of December when case numbers are going up.
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redsfan wrote: always depended upon people inputting their info into the app did it not?...never made sense to me
The issue with the app was that everything about it was voluntary.

It was never going to work well that way
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ROYinTO wrote: OTOH, with the changes to the qualifications on who can get tested only a certain portion of the population can get tested. A positive test result is required to get a code to input into the app. This might explain why the notification numbers drop towards the end of December when case numbers are going up.
This! Only certain people can get tested now (in Ontario) and without the code those who get a positive rapid test for example can't enter it into the app even if they wanted to. People who can get the code are either in the hospital, long term care or somewhere else and unlikely mingled with the general population. Besides, the app condition is to be in contact for at least 15 minutes. I think it's common knowledge that omicron can be transmitted much faster. That's why I thought the app is completely irrelevant now.
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It was never relevant to start with.

The Venn diagram of the 1) provinces that adopted it, 2) people who downloaded it, 3) gave the app permissions, and 4) agreed to use it was far too small.
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Spinner wrote: It was never relevant to start with.

The Venn diagram of the 1) provinces that adopted it, 2) people who downloaded it, 3) gave the app permissions, and 4) agreed to use it was far too small.
I know several people who were alerted by it. It's significance was really determined by the local area. People are different in different places. Day to day, people mostly meet local people. So, YMMV. But now no codes, no use. They could have changed it, so people could just enter their status without a code, it could have been still useful in certain places.

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