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CRTC asks what we think (about RT) & RT USA shuts down

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I would say let them be because only old people watches TV. There are way worse things on the internet from both side of the war. It's a slippery slope.

It's been propaganda for a lot time, long before the war. Every national network has propaganda of their own, even allies.

Spend enough time on NHK and you'll catch a doc about how bad American occupation was after WW2.

Spend enough time on CCTV, you would think China is like Disneyland and there are tons of heroes you have never heard of.
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Xtrema wrote: I would say let them be because only old people watches TV.
What is "old people"? Are you 16?
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playnicee1 wrote: What is "old people"? Are you 16?
I believe he's trying to say there are other ways to watch news networks of your choice other than your TV provider in this day and age
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playnicee1 wrote: What is "old people"? Are you 16?
CRTC doesn't control the internet. Almost everyone has internet and RT and others had been paying Google and Facebook or Tiktok to promote propaganda on those platforms which attract way more younger and corruptible minds. The info war is now fought in places like these forums from wumaos and troll armies. Not on TV.

If we follow same stats as US only 44% households subscribed to cable TV, so that impact is limited. And I believe people who watches TV for their news and programs, they have already picked a side.

Also CRTC is a government body and you don't want them to start precedence that contradict our freedom of expression under Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedom and attracts lawsuits. Do you really want a government start censoring speech unilaterally? That sounds down right like China and Russia to me.

But providers can pick and choose what they carry because they are private businesses. Go petition Bell and Rogers and whoever your provider is to remove RT.

Our Shaw in the west has already done that.
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This is just like Canada has never officially banned Huawei 5G but all providers just did it anyway.
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with a lot of unofficial nudging from the government officials they sure did that yes. And it worked out very well.
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playnicee1 wrote: CRTC still regulates what the cable companies can and can not carry on cable. BTW it's not just Shaw. All major carriers have eliminated RT. Some of the smaller companies are still carrying RT.
Then go thru the procedure when it's open for public comment. It doesn't change anything in whole scheme of things, it's just symbolic. TV doesn't matter. Small companies that provide TV services matter even less.

Now you better hope Putin get a bullet to the head or the consequences will be way more severe than watching RT on your TV.
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playnicee1 wrote: At this time we can all be thankful it's just one person. I still take very serious offense to your comment that only old people watch TV though.
We live in a world of choice. TV is there to be watched. I like the game shows myself, I guess that makes me an old person.
I also like watching news on TV.
Well don't take offence when it's kinda a fact?
https://www.emarketer.com/chart/251109/ ... -july-2021

TLDR, % of time watching cable TV
Gen z: 9%
Millennial: 16%
Gen X (that's me): 21%
Boomers: 38%.

I'm Gen X while I still have cable TV for sport events (that I have not paid a streaming sub to already), I don't watch cable for anything else.

Shaw and Telus both have slowed their investment in providing TV service and contents because you just can't ignore trends.
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playnicee1 wrote: Rogers cable is retired, actually. (Legacy cable is only available to existing customers)
Rogers Ignite TV IS an IPTV service...it's doing well because the first year includes FREE Disney Plus.
BTW I'm not arguing how TV programming is being delivered but "TV" in the traditional sense is being dropped and unsubscribed from. Every provider will move to IPTV going forward to release the bandwidth for more internet needs and legacy TV hardware are getting expensive to support as the manufacturers are abandoning the market. The only numbers you have to look at is that they now have to throw in Disney Plus to keep you buying traditional cable tv programing is actually more of a sign people are not watching traditional TVs any more.

TV news can now be had for free on youtube, CBC, Global, CTV all post their stories there.

The old model of a 200 channel package by a cable TV provider is dead. Everyone can pick can choose as long as you have internet.

Anyway, I'm not going to argue on this any more. I don't believe cord cutting will be a trend 10 years ago but here we are and all the numbers are staring at your face. It's up to you to believe it.
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Xtrema wrote: BTW I'm not arguing how TV programming is being delivered but "TV" in the traditional sense is being dropped and unsubscribed from. Every provider will move to IPTV going forward to release the bandwidth for more internet needs and legacy TV hardware are getting expensive to support as the manufacturers are abandoning the market. The only numbers you have to look at is that they now have to throw in Disney Plus to keep you buying traditional cable tv programing is actually more of a sign people are not watching traditional TVs any more.

TV news can now be had for free on youtube, CBC, Global, CTV all post their stories there.

The old model of a 200 channel package by a cable TV provider is dead. Everyone can pick can choose as long as you have internet.

Anyway, I'm not going to argue on this any more. I don't believe it will be a trend 10 years ago but here we are and all the numbers are staring at your face that traditionally model of TV is dead.
As long as people watch news on the web page of CTV, Global and City, I'm sure things will be fine for them. The viewer will still watch commercials, so those two things are good enough for me!!
(No Rogers? No problem. Cheaper Disney Plus: https://tvline.com/2022/03/04/disney-pl ... wer-price/ )
The very idea that one can watch for free OTA without needing to pay for internet will never die AND IT DOES NOT MAKE ME OLD!!!
(Yes, I still pay for cable, but it's bundled, so my rates are very low + 25% off my cell bill)
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