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Jul 15th, 2020 8:46 pm

Xeros [OP]: Deal Addict; Jun 2, 2009; 2090 posts; 95 upvotes; Toronto

Jul 15th, 2020 8:46 pm

Curb Stop replacement

Just wondering what the going rate is to have the curb stop by your home replaced? The entire head of the curb stop is broken, so I imagine having to dig out the broken pieces and installing a new one.

Is $1000 reasonable? No idea as I've never even seen this come up in all the places I've lived in.

The curb stop is not the city's responsibility in this scenario.

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Jul 16th, 2020 12:32 am

l69norm: Deal Expert; Jun 12, 2007; 15679 posts; 4736 upvotes; London

Jul 16th, 2020 12:32 am

It belongs to the city - don't touch it
Call 311

https://www.toronto.ca/311/knowledgebas ... maged.html

Jul 16th, 2020 6:04 am

Shaidin: Sr. Member; Jan 7, 2013; 610 posts; 301 upvotes; Oshawa, Ontario

Jul 16th, 2020 6:04 am

Yep I just had mine replaced in Oshawa. Call your local Works department and they should handle it all with no fees or charges. Including repatching your driveway.

Why would the city not cover for you? Your ownership of the pipework is from the curb stop to your meter, I think. Maybe even after your meter.

Jul 16th, 2020 8:04 am

teoconca: Deal Fanatic; Oct 16, 2008; 7788 posts; 2529 upvotes; Maple

Jul 16th, 2020 8:04 am

What is ‘curb stop’?

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Jul 16th, 2020 9:01 am

SubjectivelyObjective: Sr. Member; Jun 26, 2019; 560 posts; 447 upvotes

Jul 16th, 2020 9:01 am

teoconca wrote: ↑ What is ‘curb stop’?

A curb stop is the water shutoff valve that is usually located on the property line for most residential properties. Some people also call it a water key.

It is usually part of the municipal water infrastructure and it allows the municipality to shut off your water without entering your property.

This guy:

Anyways, in most municipalities it is not owned by the homeowner, and generally illegal to touch it. To even turn it on and off you need to usually call your Town/City.

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Jul 16th, 2020 4:39 pm

Xeros [OP]: Deal Addict; Jun 2, 2009; 2090 posts; 95 upvotes; Toronto

Jul 16th, 2020 4:39 pm

Because I live in a situation where the city sends one bill for the entire complex, and it is up to the board to sort out individual water use amongst the units. Also, because of this situation, the city said the Curb Stops are our own problem to deal with.

Otherwise I'd just let the city deal with it. Unfortunately they confirmed they won't touch it (since they have one big Curb Stop somewhere closer to the main that controls it for the entire complex).\

Anyway, it looks like most people will never have to deal with this issue. Thanks for trying.

Jul 16th, 2020 5:00 pm

l69norm: Deal Expert; Jun 12, 2007; 15679 posts; 4736 upvotes; London

Jul 16th, 2020 5:00 pm

Xeros wrote: ↑ Because I live in a situation where the city sends one bill for the entire complex, and it is up to the board to sort out individual water use amongst the units. Also, because of this situation, the city said the Curb Stops are our own problem to deal with.

Otherwise I'd just let the city deal with it. Unfortunately they confirmed they won't touch it (since they have one big Curb Stop somewhere closer to the main that controls it for the entire complex).\

Anyway, it looks like most people will never have to deal with this issue. Thanks for trying.

Try a specialized contractor like maybe
https://trustedpros.ca/company/nu-tech- ... ox-repairs

Instead of excavating down with a back hoe and making a huge mess, some specialized contractors use a vacuum truck. They make a hole about only 1 ft x 1 ft around the curb stop, replace the bad parts and refill with gravel. Someone I knew had this done (by the city's contractor). They rolled up one night at 11:30pm and were gone by just after midnight. They went all the way down to the water line too.

You can also ask the city if they contract this work out and who the subcontractor is.

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Jul 16th, 2020 7:39 pm

Alligatorclip: Jr. Member; Apr 25, 2018; 109 posts; 150 upvotes; Ottawa, ON

Jul 16th, 2020 7:39 pm

the head is just a cover... they'll swap that out in a jiffy. The actual valve is deep underground

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Jul 17th, 2020 12:49 am

SubjectivelyObjective: Sr. Member; Jun 26, 2019; 560 posts; 447 upvotes

Jul 17th, 2020 12:49 am

Xeros wrote: ↑ Because I live in a situation where the city sends one bill for the entire complex, and it is up to the board to sort out individual water use amongst the units. Also, because of this situation, the city said the Curb Stops are our own problem to deal with.

Otherwise I'd just let the city deal with it. Unfortunately they confirmed they won't touch it (since they have one big Curb Stop somewhere closer to the main that controls it for the entire complex).\

Anyway, it looks like most people will never have to deal with this issue. Thanks for trying.

In this case, is the shutoff part of your responsibility or is it part of the common element?

Anyways, what I would recommend is to call the City and ask them for a list of contractors who do their site servicing work or service connections. You could potentially contact them directly. In the end, if you can get a servicing contractor to do it, it's probably the best way forward, however it is harder to get them to do some of the smaller jobs.

I assume you are in Toronto? If so, I could maybe see if some of the smaller guys are interested in this work.

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Jul 20th, 2020 2:58 pm

Xeros [OP]: Deal Addict; Jun 2, 2009; 2090 posts; 95 upvotes; Toronto

Jul 20th, 2020 2:58 pm

SubjectivelyObjective wrote: ↑ In this case, is the shutoff part of your responsibility or is it part of the common element?

Anyways, what I would recommend is to call the City and ask them for a list of contractors who do their site servicing work or service connections. You could potentially contact them directly. In the end, if you can get a servicing contractor to do it, it's probably the best way forward, however it is harder to get them to do some of the smaller jobs.

I assume you are in Toronto? If so, I could maybe see if some of the smaller guys are interested in this work.

Left the shutoff as unit owner responsibility.

Already found a company, just wondering if the $1K quote was reasonable, and if any other people have experience with privately fixing their curb stop.

However, just from the responses, it seems like it is rare to have to personally repair this.

I appreciate the help.

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Jul 20th, 2020 6:20 pm

ES_Revenge: Deal Expert; Mar 23, 2004; 27676 posts; 8034 upvotes

Jul 20th, 2020 6:20 pm

SubjectivelyObjective wrote: ↑ A curb stop is the water shutoff valve that is usually located on the property line for most residential properties. Some people also call it a water key.

Why don't they just call it the water shut-off valve on the drive/lawn? lol

Anyway yeah my mom hit mine one time when "helping" to mow the lawn

Took a big chunk out of it. Called the city and they replaced.

OP OTOH sounds like they are up the creek if they gotta pay for this themselves, and if it costs $1k. I mean how badly damaged is it and is it causing a problem? 'Cause mine was just missing a piece but was still functionally intact. If city wasn't gonna pay for it I would have just left it lol.

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