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Current Best Ryzen 4500U/4700U Envy x360/Flex 5 14 Deals (Starting from $786.59, YMMV)

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I have been on the hunt for a good ultrabook or 2-in-1 upgrade since almost late last year. Held off for a while because everything was overpriced and not much better than previous generations, or what you could get used/refurbished for much less. With the release of the new Ryzen 4000U lineup, I think that's changed things significantly. Sadly availability had been scarce on these laptops up until recently. After some digging around I was surprised to find that there are some actually decent deals available right now. This is just what I found searching for something to buy for myself, figured I might as well share it here for anyone else interested. The best deal is the price match deal at the bottom IMO, which is what I ended up getting.
HP ENVY x360 13.3" Touchscreen 2-in-1 Laptop - Nightfall Black (AMD Ryzen 5 4500U/256GB SSD/8GB RAM/Windows 10)
$899.99 (Save $150 off $1049.99) - Free Shipping, says it will be delivered on June 30. It is also in stock in most BestBuy locations and can be reserved for pickup. Sale ends June 18.
https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/hp ... 0/14538550
- This is a very high quality model according to the user reviews and comparisons I've seen. It's only shortcoming is that it's performance is a slightly less compared to other 4500U laptops because it has a lower TDP limit or less robust cooling. Comes with Bluetooth 5.0, and wifi 6, the Flex models below do not.
*Also saw a deal posted for this same model and price at costco but I get product not found when I try to view that deal.

Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14" Touchscreen 2-in-1 Laptop - Platinum Grey (AMD Ryzen 5 4500U/256GB SSD/8GB RAM/Windows 10)
$899.99 (+8% Rakuten Cashback, that's $828 after cashback, potentially $786.59 if you're eligible for a 5% discount*) - Free Shipping, ships in 1-3 business days.
https://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/laptops/id ... 81X20007US
- I don't think this deal is as good as the x360 deal without cashback, but it is cheaper on the Lenovo site than other places. With Rakuten 8% cashback this is a $72 cheaper deal. Good quality laptop but not as good as the x360. Has a good keyboard, and better performance/cooling than the x360, this is the only area it's significantly better in.
*Students/Teachers/Miltary/Responders get to benefit from a 5% discount as well. $899.99-5% is $854.99, after 8% cashback too it's $786.59, making this potentially a very good deal for some of us. This is basically 12.6% off.

The 4500U is faster in almost all common use-cases than ANYTHING Intel has to offer in the ultrabook space, and even some of their higher TDP offerings which is why I think it's safe to say a 4500U laptop is way more than fast enough for most things. I suggest getting a 4500U laptop if you see a deal you like to get the best bang out of your buck. With that said.. the 4700U model of the Flex 5 is also available for not much more, and offers a significant enough performance bump to justify the cost if your use-case benefits from it (I don't think it will for most of us if we're being real, but I don't blame anyone if they spend more for this anyways because I did too). Also saw a deal posted here not long ago with the 4700U version of the x360 on sale at Costco for $1099.99 but I get product not found when I try to view the deal.

Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14" Touchscreen 2-in-1 Laptop - Graphite Grey (AMD Ryzen 5 4700U/256GB SSD/8GB RAM/Windows 10)
$1,029.99 ($956.79 after 8% Rakuten Cashback, $908.95 if you get the 5% discount* as well)
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14" Touchscreen 2-in-1 Laptop - Graphite Grey (AMD Ryzen 5 4700U/512GB SSD/8GB RAM/Windows 10)
$1,079.99 ($993.59 after 8% Rakuten Cashback, $943.91 if you get the 5% discount* as well)
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14" Touchscreen 2-in-1 Laptop - Graphite Grey w/ FRENCH KEYBOARD (AMD Ryzen 5 4700U/512GB SSD/8GB RAM/Windows 10)
$1,079.99 (See above, same thing, just comes with French keyboard instead of US English)
https://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/laptops/id ... 8IPF501453
- When you consider the Rakuten cashback here these start to look like really good deals, only $56.80 more than the 4500U x360 deal to get an upgrade to the 4700U in the Flex 5, $93.60 if you want to double your storage too.
*This starts to look like an EVEN better deal if you're a Teacher, Student, Responder, or Military because of that 5% discount. You would be looking at only $8.96 more for the 4700U upgrade and $43.92 to double your storage too.. Again, this is basically 12.6% off.

PS - None of these prices include taxes. Warranty upgrades/extensions and other add-ons from Lenovo also get discounted/cashback as well I believe. Rakuten's 8% Lenovo Canada cashback offer looks like it expires 06/30/2020, but don't quote me on this. Lenovo also allows financing with brightpay, no "interest" but you pay a flat $5 fee for every month ($30 more for 6 month, and $60 more for 12 month financing).

EDIT: Some RAM info since some people were curious. These are 8GB soldered, dual channel. They can't be upgraded, but they aren't single channel.

I was initially put off by there not being any 16gb models being available at a good price, (it's $999.99 for 4500U with 16gb, and a couple hundred bucks more to get it with a 4700U almost from what I saw), but after doing some research I learned that the difference between 8gb and 16gb in these APU type cpus do not make a big difference if any at all in most tasks, including gaming.

Obviously this will change in the future as memory requirements go up, so I suggest waiting for the 16gb models to go on sale if you want to future proof. If any of you ordered or want to order the 8gb model dont feel too apprehensive in doing so, you'll be fine with 8gb unless you work with extremely memory hungry applications often (insert chrome joke here).

EDIT 2: Adding an Envy x360 deal here from staples.

HP ENVY x360 15.6" Touchscreen 2-in-1 Laptop (AMD Ryzen 5 4700U/512GB SSD/8GB RAM/Windows 10)
$1049.99 (Save $100 off $1149.99) - Free Shipping, says it will be delivered on June 23-July 3. Not available in any stores. Sale ends June 21.
https://www.staples.ca/products/2979848 ... ws-10-home
- Reviews lead me to believe that the 13.3in version is better designed and quality, but that the 15in version has better thermal performance. Ram is upgradable in this one at least. The 13in model also has a better screen than this one.

Also adding possible way to get the $1079.99 Ryzen 5 4700U/512GB SSD/8GB RAM model Lenovo Flex 5 for only $899.00 ($827.08 after Rakuten cashback). YMMV.

1. Contact Lenovo support by live chat, ask to price match the above mentioned model after telling them you've found a better deal for a similar model.
2. When they ask for a link, send them the acer swift deal on amazon for $899 (look here).
3. If you get lucky, they will approve the price match cause they have similar specs. Just convert the quote to an order once you get the discounted quote.
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Toss up some feedback on the 4700U you bought, good deal great value, just increase ram to 16gb , these days I feel one needs a 512 os drive imho. Its heating up peeps deals will get better as well, but if ya need now buy now and enjoy using
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Super helpful thread, thanks for putting it together! I just wish there were more options for upgradable RAM instead of having soldered, non-upgradeable RAM built in.

Don't get me wrong, I've made it this far with 8GB and it'll still be fine for the short term, but having the option of extending to 12 or 16 does wonders for the longevity - I want to be able to use my next laptop for 4-5 years and who knows what computing requirements will look like in 2025?
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Good thread. I'll dig in a little later.
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I actually bought the Lenovo Legion Laptop (Ryzen 4600H) with 12% Rakuten Cashback and currently using it. The Ryzen Specs are good and competing well with the Intel counterpart in performance. I received it yesterday and I was able to do multiple installation (Microsoft Office, Antivirus and some of my games) at a fast pace.

The Ryzen pricing is slightly better than Intel as of the moment (Ryzen 4700 vs. I7) and also Ryzen has an APU so you can play games on low/medium depending on what title which is a plus for Ryzen.
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I don't know if this is a Perkopolis thing or it works for everyone. Ecoupon JUNESAVE5 for 5% for lenovo flex 5(maybe the whole site)
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Buyers should check whether the amount of RAM is fixed (RAM not upgradable), whether it's dual or single channel, and RAM speed. Renoir (mobile) iGPU seems to be affected by the latter two parameters.

Ryzen Mobile 4000 APU Single Channel vs. Dual Channel Test (DDR4-3200)


I read somewhere slower RAM would decrease iGPU performance as much as 30% (tested with DDR4 3200 vs 2600, I can't recall exactly --- I might dig up references later).

These laptop options seem to come with fixed size RAM (8GB soldered).

Just saying.
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Owenzzz wrote: I actually bought the Lenovo Legion Laptop (Ryzen 4600H) with 12% Rakuten Cashback and currently using it. The Ryzen Specs are good and competing well with the Intel counterpart in performance. I received it yesterday and I was able to do multiple installation (Microsoft Office, Antivirus and some of my games) at a fast pace.

The Ryzen pricing is slightly better than Intel as of the moment (Ryzen 4700 vs. I7) and also Ryzen has an APU so you can play games on low/medium depending on what title which is a plus for Ryzen.
you don't really need an antivirus as Win10 has one built in. and also, it may come in conflict with it and slow down your laptop. i know mine did so had to uninstall
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Thanks OP for compiling all this.
lemon07r wrote: Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14" Touchscreen 2-in-1 Laptop - Platinum Grey (AMD Ryzen 5 4500U/256GB SSD/8GB RAM/Windows 10)
$899.99 (+8% Rakuten Cashback, that's $828 after cashback, potentially $786.59 if you're eligible for a 5% discount*) - Free Shipping, ships in 1-3 business days.
https://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/laptops/id ... 81X20007US
- I don't think this deal is as good as the x360 deal without cashback, but it is cheaper on the Lenovo site than other places. With Rakuten 8% cashback this is a $72 cheaper deal. Good quality laptop but not as good as the x360. Has a good keyboard, and better performance/cooling than the x360, this is the only area it's significantly better in.
*Students/Teachers/Miltary/Responders get to benefit from a 5% discount as well. $899.99-5% is $854.99, after 8% cashback too it's $786.59, making this potentially a very good deal for some of us. This is basically 12.6% off.
Just wanted to chime in on this one laptop.
For anyone considering, amazon had this except with more ram (Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14" AMD Ryzen 5 4500U/256GB SSD/16GB RAM) for $794 + taxes and it wasn't really considered a sale.
So I'm sure we'll get better deals with Lenovo as we approach BTS.
The other thread also confirmed the ram is NOT upgradable unfortunately so the 8GB would be a poor deal for most.
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Cisco KId wrote: Toss up some feedback on the 4700U you bought, good deal great value, just increase ram to 16gb , these days I feel one needs a 512 os drive imho. Its heating up peeps deals will get better as well, but if ya need now buy now and enjoy using
Will do. I'll be sure to thoroughly test if 8gb ram is really an actual bottleneck.
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Has anyone looked at the Dell 2 in 1 Ryzens??
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I wonder if the 4700U's Vega7 is wroth the extra cost over 4600U's Vega6 for gaming. Or don't bother and get something with a dedicated GPU.
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Lmao, guys, I managed to get that 4700u, 512gb model Lenovo Flex 5 for $899.

I started a live chat this morning with lenovo to cancel my order for the 4700u Flex 5, because I wanted to order a cheaper model instead. I only told the chat rep that I wanted to cancel because had found a better deal for a different laptop elsewhere, and he told me that he could possibly price match if the specs are similar enough.

This is where I remembered that deal for the Acer Swift 4700u, 512gb on amazon for $899. Now I dont think this is a good deal or laptop at all, it has bad thermals/performance and a poor screen, plus it's not convertible/2-in-1 or touch screen, but I thought what could I lose, I was cancelling the order anyways, maybe I can get lucky and make out like a bandit with this shot in the dark. So I sent him the amazon link to the acer swift deal (again, I don't recommend this laptop unless you dont care about the screen and throttling issues), and a couple minutes later he told me that the laptop had a ryzen 3 so he couldnt price match. I told him that there arent any 4th gen ryzen 3 laptops out yet, so he apologized, disappeared for another couple minutes, lo and behold, he came back to tell me that the price match was approved.

He cancelled my old order for me then sent me the quote for the 81X20002US at $899 by email. I converted that quote from my lenovo account to an order then paid for it. I'm a happy bandit today boys. A lenovo flex 5, 4700u, 8gb ram, with 512gb ssd (which Im betting is way faster than the acer one), for only $899 is a pretty good deal in my books. I dont think this price match was supposed to be allowed, cause they're two very different laptops but I guess I got lucky with them overlooking that and only looking at the cpu/ram/ssd specs.

EDIT: Just realized I still get 8% back from Rakuten.. so that's only $827.08 after cashback.
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Hi OP, what x360 deal? I just bought one from BB for $1299 a week ago. Is there another deal?
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number8888 wrote: I wonder if the 4700U's Vega7 is wroth the extra cost over 4600U's Vega6 for gaming. Or don't bother and get something with a dedicated GPU.
Dont bother if its for gaming unless you only play light to moderate indie or esport type games unless you dont mind having all the settings turned way down (even gta v will run at decent fps with everything on low). You should probably spring a little extra for a 4800h laptop with a 1660 ti (the asus tuf isnt too much more). You can also get that one HP laptop with the 4600h and 5600m which will still be wayyy faster than any 4700u laptop but last I checked it was only $100 more to get that asus tuf one I mentioned (which is way superior).

On another note, I would say the extra cost isnt worth it because these APUs are more dependent on your cooling solution and the TDP limit set by the OEM than anything else, but if the price difference is small enough I think it could be worth it.
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lemon07r wrote: Lmao, guys, I managed to get that 4700u, 512gb model Lenovo Flex 5 for $899.

I started a live chat this morning with lenovo to cancel my order for the 4700u Flex 5, because I wanted to order a cheaper model instead. I only told the chat rep that I wanted to cancel because had found a better deal for a different laptop elsewhere, and he told me that he could possibly price match if the specs are similar enough.

This is where I remembered that deal for the Acer Swift 4700u, 512gb on amazon for $899. Now I dont think this is a good deal or laptop at all, it has bad thermals/performance and a poor screen, plus it's not convertible/2-in-1 or touch screen, but I thought what could I lose, I was cancelling the order anyways, maybe I can get lucky and make out like a bandit with this shot in the dark. So I sent him the amazon link to the acer swift deal (again, I don't recommend this laptop unless you dont care about the screen and throttling issues), and a couple minutes later he told me that the laptop had a ryzen 3 so he couldnt price match. I told him that there arent any 4th gen ryzen 3 laptops out yet, so he apologized, disappeared for another couple minutes, lo and behold, he came back to tell me that the price match was approved.

He cancelled my old order for me then sent me the quote for the 81X20002US at $899 by email. I converted that quote from my lenovo account to an order then paid for it. I'm a happy bandit today boys. A lenovo flex 5, 4700u, 8gb ram, with 512gb ssd (which Im betting is way faster than the acer one), for only $899 is a pretty good deal in my books. I dont think this price match was supposed to be allowed, cause they're two very different laptops but I guess I got lucky with them overlooking that and only looking at the cpu/ram/ssd specs.
This would be an awesome deal if it had the 16GB of RAM since the 8GB is soldered.
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reqle55 wrote: Hi OP, what x360 deal? I just bought one from BB for $1299 a week ago. Is there another deal?
Yeah, look here https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/hp ... 0/14538550
Ryzen 5 4500u, 256gb ssd, and 8gb ram for the HP Envy x360 13.3in.

Staples has the 15in Ryzen 7 4700u, 512gb ssd version for $1049 on staples as well. The ram is upgradeable.
https://www.staples.ca/products/2979848 ... ws-10-home

Reviews lead me to believe that the 13.3in version is better designed and quality, and that the 15in version has better thermal performance.
The Destroyer wrote: This would be an awesome deal if it had the 16GB of RAM since the 8GB is soldered.
Yeah, that was one of the reasons why I wanted to cancel my order in the first place. I wanted to get the 15in envy x360 for $1049 from staples instead since the ram was at least upgradable on that model or the cheaper 4500u flex since I was stuck with 8gb anyways, but if it came with 16gb I wouldnt have been able to find anything to price match for $899 with. I forgot to mention, you still get 8% cashback with rakuten here.. so I'm only paying $827.08.
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