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CW's Stargirl - Season 2 Starts Aug. 10, 2021

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CW's Stargirl - Season 2 Starts Aug. 10, 2021

DC just keeps expanding their Arrowverse with yet another TV show.



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Is this arrowverse? I thought it was intended to be on the DC online thing, but the future of that platform is iffy, so they're pushing it over to the CW?
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zod wrote: Is this arrowverse? I thought it was intended to be on the DC online thing, but the future of that platform is iffy, so they're pushing it over to the CW?
Yeah, no mention of DCU plus the announcement that she's to show up in Crisis makes it an Arrowverse show.

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Hopefully doesn't end up being Cheese Whiz, like Supergirl; but, I imagine it probably will.
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The first episode is just okay, but I guess it's a build up.
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O man - would kill for a Justice Society show.
As a kid, I always loved the stories where Justice League and Justice Society teamed up.
Lots of nods and winks in the first episode - "Action Movers" letters styled as "Action Comics".
Looking forward to how this plays out.
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zod wrote: I guess? Lot's of DC shows/movies have made it into the Crisis series. I guess they are all part of that multiverse now.
Stargirl Producer Geoff Johns Is "Completely Open" to Arrowverse Crossover
DC's Stargirl made its debut on both DC Universe and The CW this week, but it's not the first-time fans of the Arrowverse have seen this iteration of Courtney Whitmore. The young superhero made her Arrowverse debut of sorts at the end of "Crisis on Infinite Earths" when it was revealed that the events of Stargirl take place on another world within the Multiverse, specifically a newly Earth-2. While the primary world, Earth-Prime, is unaware that a new Multiverse exists, for fans the potential for a future crossover between the Arrowverse's heroes and Stargirl is exciting and it's also a possibility that showrunner Geoff Johns is "completely open" to.
For those unawares, Geoff Johns is really big in DC comics (as a writer), and briefly served as president.

Prior to release of the first episode, he penned the following letter:
https://www.newsarama.com/49551-geoff-j ... rgirl.html
To Everyone About To Watch Stargirl –

I know you have real life concerns to deal with, as we all do, so if you are watching these I hope it’s to take a break from it and I’d encourage you to watch Stargirl with your family. It’s what the show was created for and what the show is about -- and, quite frankly, right now is the time to be with family.

My entire career began with heroes. A cold call to Superman director Richard Donner’s office landed me an internship that eventually led to me being Dick’s assistant in 1996. During that first year working for him, my sister - Courtney - was killed in the TWA flight 800 disaster. Courtney was on her way to France as a foreign exchange student. She was 18. She was smart, funny and endlessly enthusiastic. Dick bought my ticket home to Detroit and told me I would have a job waiting for me in Los Angeles whenever I was ready to come back. That fall, we shot a film called Conspiracy Theory in New York. He invited my parents to the set and put them in the movie. It was the first time I remember them smiling and having fun since my sister’s death. Dick was my hero for that.

A year later, I sold my first comic book proposal to DC Comics. It was called Stars & S.T.R.I.P.E.. The premise, which is also the premise of the show, was that teenager Courtney Whitmore’s mother, Barbara, marries mechanic Pat Dugan and Courtney (reluctantly) moves with them from Los Angeles to Nebraska. In Nebraska, Courtney discovers that her new step-father used to be a superhero sidekick and steals his partner’s old stuff, taking it for a joy ride. Ultimately, Courtney takes on the mantle of Stargirl and Pat is forced to come out of retirement and becomes a sidekick to his step-daughter as S.T.R.I.P.E. It is a story about how family is created by bond, not blood. Stargirl was, obviously, named after and inspired by my sister, Courtney. It is her spirit and optimistic energy that I wanted to put back in the world with Stargirl. It is celebratory, forward-looking and positive. And I hope that comes through when you watch these episodes.

I’ve written a lot of superhero stories in my career, but this is by far the most personal on every level. The cast, crew and everyone involved has given their talent and passion to bringing Stargirlto life and I couldn’t be more grateful for them. I think their hard work paid off and, at the very least, I hope you smile a few times while you watch Brec Bassinger, playing Courtney, and Luke Wilson, playing Pat, take up their mantles individually and together.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoff_Johns
Geoff Johns has written some of the bigger stories in the DC universe over the last couple of decades.

Point being - he's tremendously well versed with the DC universe.
Definitely looking forward to seeing how this series develops, with expectations it will not be standard CW fare.
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This was pretty good first episode compared to what the rest of the DC shows have been putting out lately.
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After 3 episodes, I kinda dig the direction of show. I'm surprise there's not more talk here.
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I'm glad to see some good production value being put into this. Totally unlike the super cheap/cheesy crap like Legends. Story has potential so far.
Glad to see good balance of story on characters and action. Not the 90% teen drama crap with the rest of the Arrowverse. Although I find it a big
stretch that the entire JSA got wiped out when you have Green Lantern and Dr. Fate!!
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Pretty high quality. They should NOT join up with the supergirl/flash gang. They got a winning formula here and I hate to see it go down in quality just to get some crossover.
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The question is will it keep it up? I was under the impression that this is a DC Universe show that got filmed, but because DCU is fading away, it got redirected to the CW?
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It's weird how inconsistent DC is. You have high quality stuff like Gotham, Titans, Doom Patrol and Stargirl. Then the dreck that is the Arrowverse.
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shutterbug wrote: It's weird how inconsistent DC is. You have high quality stuff like Gotham, Titans, Doom Patrol and Stargirl. Then the dreck that is the Arrowverse.
I feel like some Arrowverse shows started well. The first 2 seasons of Arrow and the first season of Flash were amazingly good. Legends of Tomorrow got better once Rip Hunter left the show, and they decided to lean heavy on the crazy. Most everything else has devolved to Superhero 90210 at this point :(

I wonder if it's because of the season lengths. The shows you mentioned tend to be more modern 12ish episode seasons where arrowverse shows tend to be 22. They must fill up all that extra time with melodrama. You take a big chunk of that out and you get a better tighter show. Maybe that's why Legends tends to be better than other Arrowverse shows. It's got a short run too.
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shutterbug wrote: It's weird how inconsistent DC is. You have high quality stuff like Gotham, Titans, Doom Patrol and Stargirl. Then the dreck that is the Arrowverse.
Arrowverse mostly seems like it was outsourced to CW, where at best, they need to check in and see if they can use certain characters/arcs. The people involved have stronger ties in TV production/entertainment. They borrow ideas from comics, but mostly shape things as they please to tell the story they want within a restrictive budget.

Titans, Doom Patrol, Stargirl - these series seem to highly involve people from the comics division, and much more effort is made to stay true to the comics. Having Johns on board for Stargirl is remarkable, as not only did he create the original comic this is based on, but has also been involved in some of the biggest DC universe events over the last couple of decades. I can't say for certain, but these series likely have a higher budget to work with.

Yeah - Stargirl has been fun to watch, and feels more character driven. Not only are we watching a slow play build up for new heroes, but we are also experiencing the same for the villains. They are more complicated than two dimensional bad guys who do bad things.

Edit - Since we are having a go at Arrowverse, just thought I'd share:
Top 10 characters the Arrowverse completely botched

Their list is as follows:
10 - Iris West (Flash)
9 - Laurel Lance/Black Canary (Arrow)
8 - Jimmy Olsen/Guardian (Supergirl)
7 - Adrian Chase/Prometheus (Arrow)
6 - Ricardo Diaz/The Dragon (Arrow)
5 - Orlin Dwyer/Cicada (Flash)
4 - Cat Grant (Supergirl)
3 - Kendra Saunders/Hawkgirl (Legends)
2 - Vandal Savage (Legends)
1 - Beth Kane/Alice (Batwoman)
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I'm really enjoying this show. Wilson is great in the role and pretty darn neat to see Sportsmaster in live action. If I had to nitpick, Stargirl's teenage stubbornness is really annoying.
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jenviea wrote: Also moving away from the DC Universe platform (put a fork in that specialist streamer)
I hope they never do a crossover with the series flash/supergirl/heroes of tomorrow. Dumbing down stargirl to fit a crossover would damage the series.

I read that they have under 2 million viewers, and was only a middling performer. That doesnt seem like a hit series to me.

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