Cabinet 1 is badly damage where you can really notice it being punctured.
Cabinet 2 the wall doesn't look aligned properly and whats up with the nails sticking out?
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Yeah, were lucky we didn't have any major structural damage. Maybe there is behind the walls and we can't see it.
What do you mean more damage might be done trying to fix it? What else can go wrong?
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As long as its structural painters tape you're good.
Dec 15th, 2020 9:48 am
To me it looks like base cabinets. I think there is laminate countertop resting on top.SubjectivelyObjective wrote: ↑ As long as its structural painters tape you're good.
Really, its low quality builder cabinets, installed by cheap trades in a rush, sorry if this is too honest. Those gaps in the corners are just insane.
I would probably complain to your builder and see if they do anything about it.
Also, before loading up the cabinets Id put some weight on them, either push or pull down on them to see if they are actually stable. This would be my concern vs the looks. Just make sure everything is fastened to the walls and sturdy so you dont have a bunch of dishes crashing down on you.
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It's not that we EXPECT them to deliver low quality, but the honest truth is that they do. It's about volume building and getting the job done as fast as possible by the sub-contractors. That's why you choose your builders carefully and there are some that are better than others, so you have to decide if you want to buy that builder's house or not? I bought an Aspen Ridge home in 1999 and the finishes were not bad and they were rated pretty highly. Not sure what it's like now, but I know that some other builders' quality of build and finish did not compare to mine when I visited other friend's new build houses. In all types of work, you get what you pay for, and most big builders are all about speed and volume, so the subs aren't going to take care to do jobs well when they're on the clock and under the gun to get stuff done as fast as possible.JEDI Force wrote: ↑ It is crazy to have quality standards so low for the biggest expense most will do in their entire life. Seeing the replies and downvotes, it is obvious we (myself included) expect builders to deliver low quality and only hope there isn't something too critical (ex: structural) that was done poorly. Unfortunately it is unrealistic today to have expectations that the work will be done properly.
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Houses would be back to 1,000 square feet if we bought carefully built homes where the people were paid appropriately. Mass groups of houses are built with the lowest bidder who can get the job done as quickly as possible with the cheapest materials possible. It’s why we have “builder” quality vs “renovation” quality stuff.
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Totally agree. Make it look nice, ignore the mess below the surface and don't worry about how many corners were cut.Jerico wrote: ↑ Houses would be back to 1,000 square feet if we bought carefully built homes where the people were paid appropriately. Mass groups of houses are built with the lowest bidder who can get the job done as quickly as possible with the cheapest materials possible. It’s why we have “builder” quality vs “renovation” quality stuff.
I have 2 friends who were custom home builders in Oakville. One guy was all top notch, everything was premium and he could barely sell houses. The other guy did 5-10 houses a year and did really well, but he says people dont want to pay for quality, they want to pay for PERCEIVED quality. Bigger this, or bigger that. Junk materials that look pretty. Like a TV set. He retired i his 40s and moved onto to something else. Still in demand, but tired of it.
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This site is, in many ways, part of the race to the bottom. Someone can get me a box of detergent for 5 cents cheaper? I’ll buy there. But that 5 cents does come from somewhere...exrcoupe wrote: ↑ Totally agree. Make it look nice, ignore the mess below the surface and don't worry about how many corners were cut.
As I write this right now, I have contractors fixing up my house and even though I've been working from home and watching every step, I still see corners that were cut and I had to call them on it. The nature of the business is that people don't want to pay for full quality work, they just want it to look nice and shiny, so the builders and contractors build to the customer desires.