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Daughter going to Florida

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Daughter going to Florida

Hello,

My daughter is going to Florida on vacation for 2 weeks. I told her mom (my ex) if she looked at the news recently because it's pretty bad there in terms of infections. She doesn't seem to care and they are both still going. My ex is fully vaccinated but my young daughter is not. My question is, when they return, should I wait 2 weeks before seeing my daughter? I do not think going to Florida right now is a good idea but the mom says she needs a vacation (she has relatives living there).
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She's required to quarantine for 14 days when she comes back anyways, so you're not suppose to see her.

Edit: ignore. Stupid me not reading the updated rules.
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GateGuardian wrote: She's required to quarantine for 14 days when she comes back anyways, so you're not suppose to see her.
Unvaccinated American children do not need to quarantine but must follow some loose guidelines entering back into Canada. Are the rules different for unvaccinated Canadian children entering Canada?

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/ ... dians.html
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Bubblejoy1 wrote: Hello,

My daughter is going to Florida on vacation for 2 weeks. I told her mom (my ex) if she looked at the news recently because it's pretty bad there in terms of infections. She doesn't seem to care and they are both still going. My ex is fully vaccinated but my young daughter is not. My question is, when they return, should I wait 2 weeks before seeing my daughter? I do not think going to Florida right now is a good idea but the mom says she needs a vacation (she has relatives living there).
You may also want to check on travel insurance coverage given a lot of restrictions around COVID if worst case scenario you end up sick and in the hospital.
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Bubblejoy1 wrote: Hello,

My daughter is going to Florida on vacation for 2 weeks. I told her mom (my ex) if she looked at the news recently because it's pretty bad there in terms of infections. She doesn't seem to care and they are both still going. My ex is fully vaccinated but my young daughter is not. My question is, when they return, should I wait 2 weeks before seeing my daughter? I do not think going to Florida right now is a good idea but the mom says she needs a vacation (she has relatives living there).
What city? Some areas are much better vaccinated than other areas and hence not quite as badly hit.
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CanadianLurker wrote: What city? Some areas are much better vaccinated than other areas and hence not quite as badly hit.
Sarasota
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Did you provide a parental consent letter for your ex to take her to Florida? If you're concerned, you do not need to give consent. Personally, I wouldn't allow it if it were my child.
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Bubblejoy1 wrote: Sarasota
Well, for what it’s worth here is some data for on Sarasota County. They’re actually not too bad for vaccination rates which helps - better than a lot of other areas in Florida, so it could be worse.

That said, they have had a spike in recently reported cases with over 2,800 cases on Aug 20. And with that number significantly above the 408 in the 7 day average things are potentially turning for the worst right now. And 2,800 cases with a population in the County of around 450,000 in total is a fairly high number. For comparison Ontario is reporting about 600 cases across a population of 14.5 million people.

In this context m not sure what kind of vacation your daughter is going to have that would be better than being in Ontario rather than in Sarasota at this point.


https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#county-view

People Vaccinated At Least One Dose Fully Vaccinated
% of Total Population 70.1% 57.9%
% of Population ≥ 12 Years of Age. 76.9% 63.5%
% of Population ≥ 18 Years of Age. 78.9% 65.6%
% of Population ≥ 65 Years of Age. 98.1% 83%

https://usafacts.org/visualizations/cor ... ota-county

Total Reported On Aug 20 7-Day Average
Cases 2,859 408


https://covidactnow.org/us/florida-fl/c ... s=21981124
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Raggie wrote: Did you provide a parental consent letter for your ex to take her to Florida? If you're concerned, you do not need to give consent. Personally, I wouldn't allow it if it were my child.
This, in order for her to take your daughter across international borders, she requires consent from you
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To answer your original question …

Yes, it would be wise to let 2 weeks pass between your daughters return and your seeing her. For your own protection from any transmission of Covid

And, as @Raggie mentioned … unless your ex has sole custody (and even then) … she may very well require your consent to take your Daughter out of the country.

https://travel.gc.ca/travelling/children/faq

If you object to this trip … now is the time to say so. And to not give that Letter of Consent, or contact your Lawyer for further advice
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Raggie wrote: Did you provide a parental consent letter for your ex to take her to Florida? If you're concerned, you do not need to give consent. Personally, I wouldn't allow it if it were my child.
Me either. The American Covid rates are f'ing stupid. Insanely high, and Florida is the worst and practices no social distancing or masking. The mom sounds like a moron (and she also needs to figure out the difference between a "need" and a "want").
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If you're really opposed to it like others have said you can refuse to give consent. I remember our first vacation after my parents' divorce when I was a kid we weren't made aware of this requirement and my dad had to fax a consent letter to the airport at 7am before our flight :lol:
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Both my ex and I have provided each other consent forms no less than a half dozen times since we split up and at both the US and Canadian borders we have never been asked to show them. We always have them just in case, but not something that is necessarily checked.
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Bubblejoy1 wrote: Hello,

My daughter is going to Florida on vacation for 2 weeks. I told her mom (my ex) if she looked at the news recently because it's pretty bad there in terms of infections. She doesn't seem to care and they are both still going. My ex is fully vaccinated but my young daughter is not. My question is, when they return, should I wait 2 weeks before seeing my daughter? I do not think going to Florida right now is a good idea but the mom says she needs a vacation (she has relatives living there).
Agree with you that it's pretty bad. Maybe your ex should look at the daily Florida flights to or from Canada with COVID cases:
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/ ... #wb-auto-5
So far in August, Air Canada and Westjet report COVID cases on their flights from Orlando to Canada. And Air Canada Fort Lauderdale flights on August 15, 16, 17 and 21 have COVID cases.
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I have family in Orlando and they've so far been OK so I mean it's not impossible to minimize the risk of COVID if you stay away from crowds. I think my sister mentioned they drove to a beach in St-Petes and it was completely empty (compare to some of the beaches in QC or ON)

So I mean it's doable to vacation down there (even if not recommended) if you don't want to completely block your ex and your daughter from going.

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