Day of possession, should sellers provide helpful hints and tips?

Probably should be okay legally if he sold his place with no condition.

I wouldn't write it down, maybe verbally pass on the tips

It's a sad world we live in...but after the deal is done, never talk to, or communicate with buyers at all...you don't know them, or how unhinged they might be

Unfortunately, a lot of people out there suck, or are wildly dellusional about things....and they will make your life more difficult. As they say, "no good deed goes unpunished".

Sidenote: When I sell a property, everything thereafter from the other side goes straight to the lawyer.

Also, before I sign a listing agreement with an agent, I make it clear they are to attend and watch over any and all post-deal "property visits"...you'd be surprised the nonesense people do and 'test' at these visits when they are unattended by seller's representation...and often even though they are only allowed 2 persons, everyone and their dogs show up to give the property a once-over.

No, we are all adults.

Why??? Honest is 1 thing but this is not necessary at all.
He may need to provide his contact for support. J/K
May be more helpful to tell where are the water shut off valves for faucets backyard and/or front yard.

Nope. The wrong people would make you regret that.

I think it's nice of him, but it may bite him in the ass.

I took the risk anyways. I made a binder of all manuals for the appliances in the house. I also made a booklet of colour swatches for the paint with details of which colour went where (our house had 9 paint colours on the wall) and also put up cards where the finicky appliances are.

We had 2 washers, I put a note to not use both at same time. Dryer I put note that timed dry is more reliable.

Our current house, owner left no manuals, nothing. But he did send his cousin who lived in the neighborhood over a month after we moved in. Cousin asked if everything was ok, if we needed help or had questions. Cousin gave us both his number and the original owners number.

For both the house we sold and the house we bought, not a problem with original owners or new owners.

StatikIEV wrote: ↑ It's a sad world we live in...but after the deal is done, never talk to, or communicate with buyers at all...you don't know them, or how unhinged they might be

Unfortunately, a lot of people out there suck, or are wildly dellusional about things....and they will make your life more difficult. As they say, "no good deed goes unpunished".

Sidenote: When I sell a property, everything thereafter from the other side goes straight to the lawyer.

Also, before I sign a listing agreement with an agent, I make it clear they are to attend and watch over any and all post-deal "property visits"...you'd be surprised the nonesense people do and 'test' at these visits when they are unattended by seller's representation...and often even though they are only allowed 2 persons, everyone and their dogs show up to give the property a once-over.

This! Also, limit to one visit, or none at all. Tell them to look as often as they want BEFORE the sale, but not after. Especially as we are in a sellers' market.

Don't do it. The seller told me after it was all said and done that there was once a leak. They obviously hid it when selling and I had bought it. To me it was fair game but a different buyer may have acted differently in the scenario and got angry and wasted every ones time. He told me all the negatives and the positives of the property. He was just being an honest person, but I would never do it.

I think it's just common curtesy. Our previous owners left a note with the alarm code, which mail box was ours and a few other helpful tips. I plan on doing the same when moving.

JayLove06 wrote: ↑ Nope. The wrong people would make you regret that.

What can they do though if there are no subjects, for example? I think OP’s friend is a good human citizen. It’s too bad there are potential penalties for being so.

Super_Chicken wrote: ↑ I think it's just common curtesy. Our previous owners left a note with the alarm code, which mail box was ours and a few other helpful tips. I plan on doing the same when moving.

When we sell, we will do the same.

I mean, I think there's a decent gulf between "here are the keys and here's what they all do, here's the mailbox code, here's where the water shutoff is, etc..." and "here's an itemized list of all the crap that's wrong with your house that I knew and never told you about".

Wish I'd had house bible from the previous owners when I bought because it'd be very useful, but it opens you up to frivolous litigation from total lunatics if you start listing all the problem's the place has had during your tenure as owner...

With our house we both left and received letters with the owners and our contact info for any questions. Mainly so we can be notified of any mail still being sent.

Never had any issues.

pizzaclown wrote: ↑ I mean, I think there's a decent gulf between "here are the keys and here's what they all do, here's the mailbox code, here's where the water shutoff is, etc..." and "here's an itemized list of all the crap that's wrong with your house that I knew and never told you about".

Wish I'd had house bible from the previous owners when I bought because it'd be very useful, but it opens you up to frivolous litigation from total lunatics if you start listing all the problem's the place has had during your tenure as owner...

Can someone sue though for small things?

berrytree wrote: ↑ My bud wants to write a list to buyers of his Vancouver townhouse; he says for eg the toilets get blocked if there’s too much paper. Is there any risk to this? The guy is honest to a fault.

Things it's very considerate for a seller to provide:

Manuals: operation of special light switches/timers/dual zone hvac; care of non-conventional fixtures left behind such as fish tanks, ponds, pool equipment , in-ground irrigation, maintenance contacts/regularity and so forth.

Things a seller are actually required to provide is everything they must relinquish control of in order for the seller to use same;
either the keys or reset or entry access codes to house and all locked rooms, garage alarm; wi-fi controlled systems - entry lock, door bell, smoke/Co2 alarms must either be reset or the codes provided,

Anything else could be asking for problems.

Potential downside is that if they take your "advice" and it ends up causing damage, you bud could potentially be liable.

I work in the professional field, and we are always very careful in putting anything in writing.

Instead of putting it in writing, your bud can do a quick walkthru or show the key items to the buyers or their buying agent.

That way, it is easier for you bud and less potential liability.

StatikIEV wrote: ↑As they say, "no good deed goes unpunished".

As you get older, this becomes more and more apparent. It's very true.

StatikIEV wrote: ↑ It's a sad world we live in...but after the deal is done, never talk to, or communicate with buyers at all...you don't know them, or how unhinged they might be

Unfortunately, a lot of people out there suck, or are wildly dellusional about things....and they will make your life more difficult. As they say, "no good deed goes unpunished".

It is a sad world but more because of mentalities like this. It's unfortunate people automatically think the worst of each other - that causes more problems. Too many people look at external causes for their problems rather looking internally and how they may have contributed.

hierophant wrote: ↑ It is a sad world but more because of mentalities like this. It's unfortunate people automatically think the worst of each other - that causes more problems. Too many people look at external causes for their problems rather looking internally and how they may have contributed.

You think it is because of people like me? The guy who has sold a dozen properties, and who has gotten burned in the early going, and has learned by experience and is passing his experience along...not the other people who have tried to take advantage?

I think I dufully expressed my regret that it was a painful thing to say...but nonetheless its reality.

If someone out there wants to ignore risk, and stick their neck out, that is their right and it is fine with me..but that doesn't change the fact that once out of every 4 or 5 tunes they do it, they are going to get their head chopped off.

Its like if you leave your car unlocked with a $100 bill in the dash, eventually you are gonna get robbed.

hierophant wrote: ↑ Too many people look at external causes for their problems rather looking internally and how they may have contributed.

I don't even know what this has to do with the price of soup in regards to this conversation.

Are you saying when you help out the seller, and they burn you...blame yourself for their actions, and then keep doing it in the hopes your generosity changes human nature?

I don't have 'problems' here, and others won't either, if they protect themselves. I'm not saying don't be a good person, don't be friendly to people you meet, dont give to charity.

...however, selling your property is one of the most important decisions in your life, there is a lot of money involved, and sometimes, often times, the people doing real estate transactions on the other end are out for blood, its their business, they go to seminars about it, and every penny/pound of flesh they can extract out of you, legal or not, they will.

In other words, pick your spots. And imo, large real estate transactions aren't the place to expose your good nature. So for me, if the buyers have questions, I direct them to my agent or lawyer... if that makes me 'the problem' with theworld to you, then guilty as charged.