Yep. Screws in directly to the existing holes used for by the OEM cooler.jeff69dini wrote: ↑ it screws in directly to dell g5/xps 8940 with no modding then?
There's a sucker born every minute.
Sep 12th, 2021 1:42 am
Yep. Screws in directly to the existing holes used for by the OEM cooler.jeff69dini wrote: ↑ it screws in directly to dell g5/xps 8940 with no modding then?
Sep 12th, 2021 3:42 am
price isn't that bad considering how hard to get gpu these days, not saying i like it.ph00p wrote: ↑ Are pc gaming prices that bad that people are excited to pay this much on SALE for dead tech HDD and only 8GB of ram?
How much would it cost to build this thing to these specs?
I haven’t followed pricing in a long time, but if this is where we are I’ll just be content with my Series X and throw money towards a new tv and AVR instead of this money dumpster.
Sep 12th, 2021 3:54 am
i'm using 4930k so no win11 for me but i'm not sure i care for win11, definitely won't compel me to upgrade just for that.frugalcanuck wrote: ↑ Heh, my PC is 9yrs old with an i5 3570k and 16gb. For day to day stuff windows flies. With win11 requirements of secure boot and TPM it prompted a look at upgrade. I realize I can work around these requirements but have parts to put together a ryzen 5 5600x and thought it'd be good to pair a 3060ti.
If value of the xps less GPU isn't much maybe I'll cancel my order. I don't want to be paying for a $1K gpu.
Sep 12th, 2021 3:55 am
it doesn't even come with a M.2 screw? oh wowkevinkuo wrote: ↑ Yep, I got one of these “harvested” XPSes off Facebook for $400. Gave to family as inexpensive home PC. iGPU is sufficient for that, it's cheaper than DIY, and comes with a Windows license.
Still a reliable way to get a GPU, but yeah don't expect to get too much $$ back reselling the rest of the computer.
Made the same mod with a CoolerMaster Hyper T2, and some M3 10mm screws + washers from Canadian Tire. Cost around $30 and is a huge improvement over the stock cooler.
Also replaced the rear fan with a 92mm ($10), added an NVMe SSD (you'll need to find a M.2 screw), and added extra stick of RAM. For RAM, look for OEM models from HK Hynix, Samsung, Micron, etc. on Facebook, Kijiji, eBay, etc., which has built in JEDEC timings.
Sep 12th, 2021 3:58 am
the idea of buying OEM is not to do any extra work on the hardware...Hugh wrote: ↑ No, that's good. You can add one after you get the system:I like having both an HDD and an SSD. I use the HDD for quick backups and for bulk storage. (In my experience, SSDs more often fail catastrophically than HDDs.)
- you get to choose the size, performance, and brand of the SSD
- it will most likely be much less expensive than Dell's marked up price
I find it easy to install an SSD and to install software there (for me, that's Linux). You may need to supply a little pan-head m2 screw. I would guess that a clean installation of Windows on the SSD is better than transferring the one on the HDD.
Sep 12th, 2021 4:22 am
Sep 12th, 2021 8:58 am
It's all about the graphics card / GPU. Everything else is more expensive than building your own:ph00p wrote: ↑ Are pc gaming prices that bad that people are excited to pay this much on SALE for dead tech HDD and only 8GB of ram?
How much would it cost to build this thing to these specs?
I haven’t followed pricing in a long time, but if this is where we are I’ll just be content with my Series X and throw money towards a new tv and AVR instead of this money dumpster.
Sep 12th, 2021 9:03 am
Sep 12th, 2021 9:38 am
Wow, this is a bleak time for pc gaming.jetfire33 wrote: ↑ It's all about the graphics card / GPU. Everything else is more expensive than building your own:
Rough approximate pricing of retail parts:
CPU = $240
Motherboard = $120
RAM = $50
Hard Drive = $50
Case = $40
Power Supply = $40
= $540
Leaving you like $500 for a graphics card (and Windows 10 if thats an issue).
The problem is you can't get an RTX 3060 of any sort for $500 these days without tremendous luck and/or effort (like lining up at 6am at Best Buy for a once a month restock). Heck you can't even get older GTX1660 for $500. You could at best get a 4GB GTX 1650 with $500.
So it starts to become worth it to get a Dell like this one primarily for the graphics card.
Sep 12th, 2021 9:45 am
I'd strongly recommend folks tackle the Dell fan profile software before they worry about upgrading the cooler. The default profile on my G5 5000 was set stupidly low with both the CPU and case fans topping out @ somewhere around 50%CPU/40%Case fan RPM with a full CPU + GPU load. I didn't test prior to adding the extra fans, but with those installed I wasn't seeing any throttling under full load even with the stock CPU fan.
Sep 12th, 2021 1:09 pm
If you are talking about the one I posted before the real improvement is less noise at the same load. Performance wise it lowers temperature a few degrees but nothing special. Even with the stock cooler it never goes higher than 70C during my tests anyway since the CPU is limited to ~95W by default, but the included cooler and case fans do get rather noisy.
Sep 13th, 2021 2:23 am
dell doesn't make ssd so whatever they rebrand is fineHugh wrote: ↑ No, that's good. You can add one after you get the system:I like having both an HDD and an SSD. I use the HDD for quick backups and for bulk storage. (In my experience, SSDs more often fail catastrophically than HDDs.)
- you get to choose the size, performance, and brand of the SSD
- it will most likely be much less expensive than Dell's marked up price
I find it easy to install an SSD and to install software there (for me, that's Linux). You may need to supply a little pan-head m2 (or perhaps m3) screw. I would guess that a clean installation of Windows on the SSD is better than transferring the one on the HDD.
Sep 13th, 2021 3:40 pm
Sep 13th, 2021 6:27 pm
after you place your order, Dell provides a packing list of individual components. The newer ads were showing LHR as well.
Sep 13th, 2021 7:01 pm
Ah ok, i'm assuming if you placed an order and it didn't say LHR, and then they shipped an LHR card, you'd be able to return without hassle?frugalcanuck wrote: ↑ after you place your order, Dell provides a packing list of individual components. The newer ads were showing LHR as well.
Sep 13th, 2021 7:11 pm
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Sep 21st, 2021 4:43 pm
Alienware LHR cards now also explicitly say as such. For example: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8GB GDDR6 LHR.
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