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Desire to upgrade PC

Hey guys, I'm considering upgrading my PC as it's now about 8 years old. My current setup that I plan to replace:

MSI Z97 GAMING 5 Motherboard
Intel i7 4790K
24Gigs of DDR3

I have several SSDs, a good case, power supply is still kicking well and with the crazy video card prices i'll stick to what I have as it runs most modern games on med/high settings.

AMD Ryzen 5 and a mid tier mobo is what I was thinking. Any suggestions for a best bang for the buck AMD Mobo memory would be apricated. I do some gaming but mostly I have a million web browser windows open. I find my machine is starting to lag periodically.
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Mid tier?

I would go with

B550 Motherboard
32 Gigs of DDR4 RAM (I usually have over 300 tabs open)
Ryzen 5 5600X or G depending on your graphics card situation.
NVMe SSD

You should consider getting a m.2 NVMe SSD since all your drives are 2.5”
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Gee wrote: Mid tier?

I would go with

B550 Motherboard
32 Gigs of DDR4 RAM (I usually have over 300 tabs open)
Ryzen 5 5600X or G depending on your graphics card situation.
NVMe SSD

You should consider getting a m.2 NVMe SSD since all your drives are 2.5”
Solid recommendation.

If you catch stuff on sale, price wise should be like this:

Mobo - $100 or less with MIR,
RAM - 32GB for $130 to 150 for RGB
CPU - 5600 will be pricey at $380, not enough competition from Intel in the market yet but we shall see what happens. It's a solid chip though, you'll get your money's worth for a solid 5 to 10 years here IMHO.

I'm also running a haswell rig as my main desktop, does all I need but I too want to upgrade. Really want RGB eye candy more than the performance lol
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What do you generally use your PC for or what are you planning to use it for?
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Just curious why 24GB of RAM? DID you put 3 sticks of 8gb or i stick of 16gb and then 8GB?
How does that even work? Isn't it better to have dual channel instead of 3 sticks.
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sponge5307 wrote: Just curious why 24GB of RAM? DID you put 3 sticks of 8gb or i stick of 16gb and then 8GB?
How does that even work? Isn't it better to have dual channel instead of 3 sticks.
More than likely 2x4GB of RAM and 2x8GB of Ram in the other slots.

OP, Ryzen 5 5600X is a great choice and will serve you a long time.
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Zero1 wrote: More than likely 2x4GB of RAM and 2x8GB of Ram in the other slots.

OP, Ryzen 5 5600X is a great choice and will serve you a long time.
I am wondering this since I currently have 16GB of Ram 2 x 8GB order 32GB 2x16GB. Thinking of just adding the 32GB in dual channel and leaving the 16GB in its own dual channel. Will it work?
Is the same brand and same timming just different size.

Orginally coz I have a big ass heatsink that block one of the RAM ports so I was thinking of taking out ht e16GB and adding the 32GB in but if I could keep the RAM in I wouldn't mind doing it.

Also using a 5600x
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i5 12XXX looks like it could be quite capable as well. Just the motherboard/ram situation holding it back for the time being with DDR4 variants hard to find and DDR5 motherboards expensive and DDR5 ram super expensive. Although with quick look on Memoryexpress site, DDR4 Z690 boards are instock and are between $240-400ish. With non-k variants and non-Z class motherboards just announced last week at CES, things can change soon. I feel AMD will have to respond with price cuts soon.
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Gee wrote: Mid tier?

I would go with

B550 Motherboard
32 Gigs of DDR4 RAM (I usually have over 300 tabs open)
Ryzen 5 5600X or G depending on your graphics card situation.
NVMe SSD

You should consider getting a m.2 NVMe SSD since all your drives are 2.5”
Perfect, thank you for the recommendation.
Havo wrote: What do you generally use your PC for or what are you planning to use it for?
I'm very browser heavy. I sometimes have over 100 windows open at the same time. I do some gaming, but rarely now a days. I occasionally do some rendering and graphic work but it's very light. Mostly it's having brave browser running a million tabs + Kodi and a game running in the background.
sponge5307 wrote: Just curious why 24GB of RAM? DID you put 3 sticks of 8gb or i stick of 16gb and then 8GB?
How does that even work? Isn't it better to have dual channel instead of 3 sticks.
I don't remember it's been a while. I think I just had two 4gig to spare and I wasn't sure at the time about dual channel and if just having more memory was more important.
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kthxbye wrote: Perfect, thank you for the recommendation.


I'm very browser heavy. I sometimes have over 100 windows open at the same time. I do some gaming, but rarely now a days. I occasionally do some rendering and graphic work but it's very light. Mostly it's having brave browser running a million tabs + Kodi and a game running in the background.


I don't remember it's been a while. I think I just had two 4gig to spare and I wasn't sure at the time about dual channel and if just having more memory was more important.
ok but you don't really need to 32GB or RAM for most user 16GB is fine unless you have like 100+ tabs open, or you are streaming and playing video games at once.
Most games won't even need 16GB or RAM. Currently I have 16GB and it seems fine but I am one of those people who don't like to just leave tabs or programs open. If I am playing a video game I would my browers and all other programs and I am on streaming Netflix or Disney + I don't have any games open. I rarely have more than 5 tabs open. 5600X is a nice CPU.
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sponge5307 wrote: ok but you don't really need to 32GB or RAM for most user 16GB is fine unless you have like 100+ tabs open, or you are streaming and playing video games at once.
Most games won't even need 16GB or RAM. Currently I have 16GB and it seems fine but I am one of those people who don't like to just leave tabs or programs open. If I am playing a video game I would my browers and all other programs and I am on streaming Netflix or Disney + I don't have any games open. I rarely have more than 5 tabs open. 5600X is a nice CPU.
Firefox and 100ish tabs open, 16GB is fine but for future proofing you want 32GB.
I have 16GB and have run it out with even less tabs in some crazy memory heavy sites.

I'm also on Haswell, 4770K.
For now i'm sticking with this but when Win 8.1 is no longer updated i plan to replace the computer.
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sponge5307 wrote: ok but you don't really need to 32GB or RAM for most user 16GB is fine unless you have like 100+ tabs open, or you are streaming and playing video games at once.
Most games won't even need 16GB or RAM. Currently I have 16GB and it seems fine but I am one of those people who don't like to just leave tabs or programs open. If I am playing a video game I would my browers and all other programs and I am on streaming Netflix or Disney + I don't have any games open. I rarely have more than 5 tabs open. 5600X is a nice CPU.
I'm currently using 70% percent of my 24gig of DDR3. So I would say that 16gig would probably not be enough.

I am using in the 60+ tabs with streaming and maybe a game running in the background too.
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sponge5307 wrote: ok but you don't really need to 32GB or RAM for most user 16GB is fine unless you have like 100+ tabs open, or you are streaming and playing video games at once.
My use is similar to @kthxbye

Instead of Brave, I use Opera and usually have 4 browsers open and over 300 tabs combined

My memory usage is at 15 Gigs, that is why I recommended 32 Gigs

I don’t play any games and I don’t stream anything in the background either (No Kodi). Other than browsers, I have Putty, and Windows Terminal open.
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sponge5307 wrote: Just curious why 24GB of RAM? DID you put 3 sticks of 8gb or i stick of 16gb and then 8GB?
How does that even work? Isn't it better to have dual channel instead of 3 sticks.
Most people upgrades 2x8gb and 2x4gb for 4 slots.
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I have settled on a AMD system but I can't help but look at the new Intel gen 12 i5.

G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Intel XMP 2.0 Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C18D-32GVK

ASUS TUF GAMING B550-PLUS AMD AM4 (3rd Gen Ryzen) ATX Gaming Motherboard (PCIe 4.0, 2.5Gb LAN, HDMI 2.1, BIOS FlashBack, USB 3.2 Gen 2, Addressable Gen 2 RGB Header and AURA Sync)

AMD Ryzen 5 5600X - Ryzen 5 5000 Series Vermeer (Zen 3) 6-Core 3.7 GHz Socket AM4 65W Desktop Processor - 100-100000065BOX
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kthxbye wrote: I have settled on a AMD system but I can't help but look at the new Intel gen 12 i5.

G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Intel XMP 2.0 Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C18D-32GVK

ASUS TUF GAMING B550-PLUS AMD AM4 (3rd Gen Ryzen) ATX Gaming Motherboard (PCIe 4.0, 2.5Gb LAN, HDMI 2.1, BIOS FlashBack, USB 3.2 Gen 2, Addressable Gen 2 RGB Header and AURA Sync)

AMD Ryzen 5 5600X - Ryzen 5 5000 Series Vermeer (Zen 3) 6-Core 3.7 GHz Socket AM4 65W Desktop Processor - 100-100000065BOX
Looks solid. I went with a similar build, except that NR200p came up on sale and I'm tempted to find an ITX motherboard now (not easy). I'm holding out on the cpu for now, lots of cards in the air and I'm in no rush
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M1K3Z0R wrote: Looks solid. I went with a similar build, except that NR200p came up on sale and I'm tempted to find an ITX motherboard now (not easy). I'm holding out on the cpu for now, lots of cards in the air and I'm in no rush
The way it's looking the supply chain is near almost complete collapse and we are also nearing hyperinflation levels. I'd say you better upgrade soon or you either will pay a lot more or just won't be able to find stock.
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kthxbye wrote: I have settled on a AMD system but I can't help but look at the new Intel gen 12 i5.
I am going to skip the 12th gen and wait for the 13th gen. There are too many issues with 12 Gen

- No DDR5, problematic if you can find DDR5, the PMIC (Power Management IC) has Issues
- Don’t want a DDR4 version
- No available coolers for new socket. LGA 1700 is wider and older heatsinks may not cover the entire lid of CPU
- Using LGA 1200 mount has issues, the height of heat sink is off due to 12th gen being 10nm

If you need parts for your AMD build, I have a extra 5600X (Sealed, brand new) that I can sell you.
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Gee wrote: I am going to skip the 12th gen and wait for the 13th gen. There are too many issues with 12 Gen

- No DDR5, problematic if you can find DDR5, the PMIC (Power Management IC) has Issues
- Don’t want a DDR4 version
- No available coolers for new socket. LGA 1700 is wider and older heatsinks may not cover the entire lid of CPU
- Using LGA 1200 mount has issues, the height of heat sink is off due to 12th gen being 10nm

If you need parts for your AMD build, I have a extra 5600X (Sealed, brand new) that I can sell you.
I agree. It appears the gen 12 really shines if you pair it with DDR5. Which instantly balloons your budget 3 folds.

DMed you about 5600x

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