Filling cabinets with stuff...did we miss a milestone? Does this mean you have now been able to move into the house?
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- dottawat
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- PCShutters [OP]
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I always try to collect the sawdust at the source. Whatever doesn’t get collected by my dust collector gets picked up by my dust extractors and air cleaner immediately so I don’t drag it all over the shop. A few seconds here and there eliminate the need to do total shop clean up at the end of the day.
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Dedicated hookup and gates cost a lot of money and space. Especially when I try to run 6” pipe everywhere. Totally worth it but I can’t deny that is not always feasible for a hobby shop.Jerico wrote: ↑ Thats a real thing. My first house I bought a small dedicated dust collector and piped the entire place. It was amazing. The only time I made dust was when drilling in the middle of the floor. Everything had its own dedicated hookup and gate.
Have never been able to 100% duplicate that since
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LOL. Yes. We officially moved in back in October 2020. That was when I tried to put up dust barrier everywhere and slowly opening up one room at a time.
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I have all the gates and pipes and adapters and and and, just been in a garage ever since we moved. Next house will have a dedicated basement or outbuilding. Ideally, I want to build and put a basement in the garage for a shop.PCShutters wrote: ↑ Dedicated hookup and gates cost a lot of money and space. Especially when I try to run 6” pipe everywhere. Totally worth it but I can’t deny that is not always feasible for a hobby shop.
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Congrats!PCShutters wrote: ↑ LOL. Yes. We officially moved in back in October 2020. That was when I tried to put up dust barrier everywhere and slowly opening up one room at a time.
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I'm guessing also you did not have a router in your first shopJerico wrote: ↑ Thats a real thing. My first house I bought a small dedicated dust collector and piped the entire place. It was amazing. The only time I made dust was when drilling in the middle of the floor. Everything had its own dedicated hookup and gate.
Have never been able to 100% duplicate that since
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If I am not living in the city, I would definitely build by own workshop in the backyard. I know a guy in Little Britian, Ontario built a 4000sqft steel pole barn in his backyard for only $120K. He has in floor heat and huge windows all around.... One can only dream.
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Thank you! I have to make a lot of compromises to make it work but totally worth it. Takes a lot longer to build things because of the distractions and being mindful of the noise and dust.
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Router is not that bad in term of dust if you have proper dust extraction set up. Most of the routing I do, I can collect 99% of it at the source.
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I was going to buy a 5 year old former model home on a double lot in 2012. It had room to make the attached 2 car garage into a 4 car garage, complete with basement. I talked to the town and figured I could make a 500 square foot garage without it looking goofy from the street. Budget was around $70k as it needed to match the existing house. Deal fell apart though. Too bad now, as that house without my addition has easily doubled in price.PCShutters wrote: ↑ If I am not living in the city, I would definitely build by own workshop in the backyard. I know a guy in Little Britian, Ontario built a 4000sqft steel pole barn in his backyard for only $120K. He has in floor heat and huge windows all around.... One can only dream.
Would have been ideal for my wife as she wants “street lights” but was still a double sized city lot. Not 4000 square, but with the basement (which was also to serve as storage) and the main floor only needing to hold a single motorcycle, it would have been sweet.
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PCShutters wrote: ↑ Router is not that bad in term of dust if you have proper dust extraction set up. Most of the routing I do, I can collect 99% of it at the source.
Router table and mitre saw are my main two offenders. My main mitre saw is usually the dewalt flexvolt one, and Ive tried a number of things but just given up. I think unless I heavily mod it, its dust collection will always be lacking. This said, a lot of times it gets set up outside or in a garage so it doesnt really matter. The makita cordless mitre saw is slightly better, but still, some dust will escape.
In terms of my router table, it just depends on the cuts. Any edge profiling or T&G/R&S on the edge will have good dust collection. I think the main offender is probably dados on the router table as it gets pushed through the dado all to the end. Funny enough, if I cut a dado with my handheld router, I can do that dust free. I could probably use the same method on my router table, but lowering a large piece of plywood onto a 3/4 bit a few inches from the end seems like more trouble that its worth to save 30 secs of vacumming.
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Did he do it himself or get someone else to build it for him?PCShutters wrote: ↑ If I am not living in the city, I would definitely build by own workshop in the backyard. I know a guy in Little Britian, Ontario built a 4000sqft steel pole barn in his backyard for only $120K. He has in floor heat and huge windows all around.... One can only dream.
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Ive seen some interesting builds with mitre saws lately where they outline the thing in wood for 90 degree cuts. I was thinking of doing that and then putting the mitre saw on drawer slides so if I needed a 45 degree cut I could pull it free of the wood shroud. That only works for home setups, useless while mobile.SubjectivelyObjective wrote: ↑ Router table and mitre saw are my main two offenders. My main mitre saw is usually the dewalt flexvolt one, and Ive tried a number of things but just given up. I think unless I heavily mod it, its dust collection will always be lacking. This said, a lot of times it gets set up outside or in a garage so it doesnt really matter. The makita cordless mitre saw is slightly better, but still, some dust will escape.
In terms of my router table, it just depends on the cuts. Any edge profiling or T&G/R&S on the edge will have good dust collection. I think the main offender is probably dados on the router table as it gets pushed through the dado all to the end. Funny enough, if I cut a dado with my handheld router, I can do that dust free. I could probably use the same method on my router table, but lowering a large piece of plywood onto a 3/4 bit a few inches from the end seems like more trouble that its worth to save 30 secs of vacumming.
When i put my vacuum on my Dewalt 2004 12” slider, it does get about 60% but that remaining 40% gets literally everywhere. I got a 6” dust opening thing for my dust collector which raises it to 80%.
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Yeah, Ive seen those two, based on my shop/needs I can't really make good use of it.Jerico wrote: ↑ Ive seen some interesting builds with mitre saws lately where they outline the thing in wood for 90 degree cuts. I was thinking of doing that and then putting the mitre saw on drawer slides so if I needed a 45 degree cut I could pull it free of the wood shroud. That only works for home setups, useless while mobile.
When i put my vacuum on my Dewalt 2004 12” slider, it does get about 60% but that remaining 40% gets literally everywhere. I got a 6” dust opening thing for my dust collector which raises it to 80%.
On the plus side, the Vac usually gets all the fines which means air quality is fine, but oh boy is there a lot of dust on the ground after a project.
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SubjectivelyObjective wrote: ↑ Router table and mitre saw are my main two offenders. My main mitre saw is usually the dewalt flexvolt one, and Ive tried a number of things but just given up. I think unless I heavily mod it, its dust collection will always be lacking. This said, a lot of times it gets set up outside or in a garage so it doesnt really matter. The makita cordless mitre saw is slightly better, but still, some dust will escape.
In terms of my router table, it just depends on the cuts. Any edge profiling or T&G/R&S on the edge will have good dust collection. I think the main offender is probably dados on the router table as it gets pushed through the dado all to the end. Funny enough, if I cut a dado with my handheld router, I can do that dust free. I could probably use the same method on my router table, but lowering a large piece of plywood onto a 3/4 bit a few inches from the end seems like more trouble that its worth to save 30 secs of vacumming.
The mitre saw is difficult but the router table can be tamed. I am using the Incra Cleansweep with their optional inserts. They work really well. Even with dados.
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- PCShutters [OP]
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He hired people for the foundation and did the rest himself. He had a lot of help from his family and friends who have bob cats and tractors etc. He has 25ft ceiling...
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I think saying things such as being able to build that structure for 120k is a little misleading. This is assuming that you get most of the labour for free, which isn't the case for most people.PCShutters wrote: ↑ He hired people for the foundation and did the rest himself. He had a lot of help from his family and friends who have bob cats and tractors etc. He has 25ft ceiling...
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It wouldn't be that much labour if it wasn't 25ft ceiling
Most people don't need a "4000sqft steel pole barn" anyway, or even have space in their yard for one. I'd be happy with a 5-600 sqft, and I'm sure you can get that done for 5 figs.
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