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Do I really need a miter saw?

Ok, here's the scoop, I"m not a fluent or frequent wood worker, and I need to make 2x4 cuts and as well fence board cuts, and I have a circular saw, and my thought is to use a speed square to make all the cuts.....then I'm told to just get a miter saw because it'll be so much quicker, and I'll be guaranteed straight cuts.

My thought is that I should still be able to get straight cuts using a speed square, or some guide to flush against the circular saw's plate, and line up the blade with the cut mark....as long as I push the saw straight and along the speed square/guide, I would imagine I can get a decent straight cut. Then I'm told, any slight wobble of the blade won't render anything straight.

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Mitre saw won't guarantee the cuts be any straighter than a speed square with steady hands, but it will make the process much, much faster. 2x4's aren't straight to begin with, so you'll never get a perfect 90 with rough 2x4's.

Depending on what you'er building, though, you probably won't need a perfect 90.
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Absolutely you don't need a miter saw for this. Would it speed up the process, sure, but probably not that much. If you are doing a bunch of non 90 degrees cuts then yeah the miter saw would help.
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Think you need to determine if you are doing a limited one time project or if you are investing on doing multiple projects in the years ahead.

If a one time job i would just borrow a mitre saw, makes any cuts super easy and fast, saves a to of time and gets perfect cuts every time.

If you are going to have future projects then invest, it is part of the trifecta of power tools that every home owner should have in their tool box. I wouldn't go without a drill, circular saw & mitre saw for the three power tools one should own, then fill it in with reciprocating saw, sawzill, jig saws, impact drill, multiple drills for various needs (impact, drywall) and the list would go on and on.

Sort of sounds like you have a one job and done scenario so if that is the case borrow a mitre saw from a friend or neighbour. If you cannot borrow and the cuts are not too visible like top deck boards then just use a circular saw, people did that for years and years prior to the invention of mitre saws and it always worked out.

Mitre saws are ideal for straight cuts as you are going to do, sounds like your job is small and your cuts not critical enough to worry too much about.

Why not explain your project....replacing a few boards, a massive deck. Would you like to invest n some tools or prefer not to have to build a toolbox of tools. Lots of the decision is based upon that.
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FIrst order of "business" is the saw blade...make sure you have a good one and you're going to get better results. Recommend a Diablo 7" blade which is pretty cheap at HD.

A circular saw will work fine but it's faster/easier to use a mitre saw. If you don't want to spend any money, make your own cutting jig and you're also guaranteed a straight cut.

If you go Mitre saw...The Kobalt 7" model goes for $130+tx.

This is the idea for circular saw jig...you can make it a lot easier/faster with simple wood. The idea is to create a track for the saw to slide along, you don't need hold downs etc.

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Zebraman wrote: Ok, here's the scoop, I"m not a fluent or frequent wood worker, and I need to make 2x4 cuts and as well fence board cuts, and I have a circular saw, and my thought is to use a speed square to make all the cuts.....then I'm told to just get a miter saw because it'll be so much quicker, and I'll be guaranteed straight cuts.
A speed square and circ saw is more than good enough for the cuts you're thinking about making. Most professionals who own a mitre saw will still use a circ saw and speed square for cuts like this.

This said.... if you're looking for an excuse to buy more tools..... One could say its "needed", lol.

But no really, you can save the money, storage space, and do the job just as well with a circ saw. If you want a cleaner cut you could buy a finish blade as well.
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Zebraman wrote: Ok, here's the scoop, I"m not a fluent or frequent wood worker, and I need to make 2x4 cuts and as well fence board cuts, and I have a circular saw, and my thought is to use a speed square to make all the cuts.....then I'm told to just get a miter saw because it'll be so much quicker, and I'll be guaranteed straight cuts.

My thought is that I should still be able to get straight cuts using a speed square, or some guide to flush against the circular saw's plate, and line up the blade with the cut mark....as long as I push the saw straight and along the speed square/guide, I would imagine I can get a decent straight cut. Then I'm told, any slight wobble of the blade won't render anything straight.

Thanks
Well circular saw works but it takes you more time and effort to make a cut. If you are cutting 2x4 and fence board I don't think "blade wobble" and accuracy matter much.

It is just easier and quicker to use a mitre saw to do the cut vs circular saw, same way your circular saw is better than using a jigsaw, and a jigsaw better than using a handsaw.

Also a lot of cut you will need to support it the piece properly to prevent pinching when cutting with a circular saw.
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Thank you Jon. I guess it does depend on how well a person is with using any type of tool...some better than others :) I for one, haven't done much anything of such since school, so time to get some pratice.
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Thank you Ballroomblitz1!

The things I"m planning on doing are as follows:

Replace a few fence boards and deck boards that need lumber to cut to length.
A dozen 2x4's got handed down to me, so I was thinking of building a planter

That's really all for now. I can't say if I'll be working on anything else.....

I do own a circular saw - used it long time ago, and haven't touched it since! I watched some Youtube videos and it looks like I should be able to use it fine for cuts. My thought was that for those that own a miter saw, is it one of those tools that is used sparingly, and of course when there's a time that's it needed, one wished that they did - I'm in that scenario. Maybe I'll just it today, and one day in the future too.....so I should maybe consider picking up one now since I could use it, but not necessary.

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Ballroomblitz1 wrote: Think you need to determine if you are doing a limited one time project or if you are investing on doing multiple projects in the years ahead.

If a one time job i would just borrow a mitre saw, makes any cuts super easy and fast, saves a to of time and gets perfect cuts every time.

If you are going to have future projects then invest, it is part of the trifecta of power tools that every home owner should have in their tool box. I wouldn't go without a drill, circular saw & mitre saw for the three power tools one should own, then fill it in with reciprocating saw, sawzill, jig saws, impact drill, multiple drills for various needs (impact, drywall) and the list would go on and on.
Sort of sounds like you have a one job and done scenario so if that is the case borrow a mitre saw from a friend or neighbour. If you cannot borrow and the cuts are not too visible like top deck boards then just use a circular saw, people did that for years and years prior to the invention of mitre saws and it always worked out.

Mitre saws are ideal for straight cuts as you are going to do, sounds like your job is small and your cuts not critical enough to worry too much about.

Why not explain your project....replacing a few boards, a massive deck. Would you like to invest n some tools or prefer not to have to build a toolbox of tools. Lots of the decision is based upon that.
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blackn54 wrote: It is just easier and quicker to use a mitre saw to do the cut vs circular saw, same way your circular saw is better than using a jigsaw, and a jigsaw better than using a handsaw.

Also a lot of cut you will need to support it the piece properly to prevent pinching when cutting with a circular saw.
I would say it is a bit easier to cut cut using a mitre saw, on a stand, with proper material supports, vs a with a circ saw/sqaure on sawhorses or a table.

Also, my jigsaw cuts straighter and better than my circular saw, and my handsaws cut perfectly straight with guides for when I need them, but now I'm really just saying this to be annoying Face With Tears Of Joy

In either case, supporting your material is strongly advised.
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I thought all pros use mitre saws as their complete single go to tool for wood cuts....I see it in job sites all the time in my walks. Maybe I am looking for an excuse yes :) I guess a bit of practice will help me a lot in using the circular, so will take that route.

Thanks


SubjectivelyObjective wrote: A speed square and circ saw is more than good enough for the cuts you're thinking about making. Most professionals who own a mitre saw will still use a circ saw and speed square for cuts like this.

This said.... if you're looking for an excuse to buy more tools..... One could say its "needed", lol.

But no really, you can save the money, storage space, and do the job just as well with a circ saw. If you want a cleaner cut you could buy a finish blade as well.
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Zebraman wrote: I thought all pros use mitre saws as their complete single go to tool for wood cuts....I see it in job sites all the time in my walks.
Most framers and people cutting rough wood will still just bring a circ saw as their one stop shop. So really, for most softwoods a lot of guys are using circ saws.

As soon as you get into hardwoods and finish carpentry, then yes, a mitre saw is your go to and you basically never touch a circular saw.
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Zebraman wrote: Thank you Ballroomblitz1!

The things I"m planning on doing are as follows:

Replace a few fence boards and deck boards that need lumber to cut to length.
A dozen 2x4's got handed down to me, so I was thinking of building a planter

That's really all for now. I can't say if I'll be working on anything else.....


Cheers
For that i would just use the circular saw, you'll never get the use out of a Mitre Saw in my opinion. While Mitre Saws make for a faster, cleaner cut for the limited use you details hardly worth the financial outlay of purchasing. You will get a solid job done just taking your time using the available tool at hand. Cheers.
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Get the mitre saw. They're cheap, and it's so much faster and easier using the right tool for the job. Only drawback is it's a lot bulkier to store than a circular saw.
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Zebraman wrote: I thought all pros use mitre saws as their complete single go to tool for wood cuts....I see it in job sites all the time in my walks. Maybe I am looking for an excuse yes :) I guess a bit of practice will help me a lot in using the circular, so will take that route.

Thanks
Pros care about time spent. Once they're done with this job they can move to the next.
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Ballroomblitz1 wrote: just use a circular saw, people did that for years and years prior to the invention of mitre saws and it always worked out.
This.
Mitre saws are nice, and an improved tool for the job, but prior to them being common the job still got done.
Ballroomblitz1 wrote: For that i would just use the circular saw, you'll never get the use out of a Mitre Saw in my opinion. While Mitre Saws make for a faster, cleaner cut for the limited use you details hardly worth the financial outlay of purchasing. You will get a solid job done just taking your time using the available tool at hand. Cheers.
I agree with this.
It just doesn't sound like you have a real need in your situation.
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No, you do not need a miter saw. Your circular saw will be adequate.

If it is just for a few fence or deck boards, mark a perpendicular line with your speed square and cut with your saw free hand. A smooth gliding motion will give you a straight enough cut. With a couple of quick-clamps you can even use the speed square as a guide.

I do have a miter saw myself and it’s a nice tool to have. But it’s not exactly portable and takes up space.
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If you plan on doing other projects in the future it might be worth it. You can get some great deals on kijiji and sell it after your are done if you don't want to keep it and you will likely break even. I bought a used Ryobi 10" sliding mitre saw for $80 since I am doing renovations in my basement. I like it and I am using it quite a lot for now. After the basement is done, I don't know if I will keep it but if I sell it, I will be able to sell it for more than I bought it for (the guy kept receiving offers higher than his asking price).
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JEDI Force wrote: If you plan on doing other projects in the future it might be worth it. You can get some great deals on kijiji and sell it after your are done if you don't want to keep it and you will likely break even. I bought a used Ryobi 10" sliding mitre saw for $80 since I am doing renovations in my basement. I like it and I am using it quite a lot for now. After the basement is done, I don't know if I will keep it but if I sell it, I will be able to sell it for more than I bought it for (the guy kept receiving offers higher than his asking price).
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If you get a good used price, there is no downside to buying it, using it and reselling it.
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