Do you use an Android phone without recent security updates?
Is it a concern to you if your phone no longer receive security updates?
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Do you actually just dispose of your 2yo phones or sell/give it on? Not disposing would be hypocritical.Gee wrote: ↑ I just accept the fact that I have to replace my phone every two years.
I don’t understand why people are so cheap with cell phones.
It is the one device that you have with you 24/7/365. It is the one device that is a constant part of your life. It is the one item that you use more than anything else you own. Why cheap out on it?
Jun 23rd, 2020 10:15 am
I am hardly in the wealthy category. I don’t have a fancy car (Honda) and I don’t live in a mansion.tntdeal wrote: ↑ Do you actually just dispose of your 2yo phones or sell/give it on? Not disposing would be hypocritical.
The 2 years planned obsolescence is a hugely complete waste for costly phones from just a few hundreds to near 2k $. Throwing away good phones is not creating wealth, it's a broken windows fallacy.
Not everyone can easily throw away a perfectly good phone like you especially the large portion of the population working with poverty wages.
Many phones can be unlocked and flashed with custom rom to extend its useful life for many more years.
Even Apple is not that greedy and vicious to their old phones.
Jun 23rd, 2020 10:46 am
It's hypocritical to sell/give it on something you consider obsolete and useless. You do not practice what you preach.Gee wrote: ↑ I am hardly in the wealthy category. I don’t have a fancy car (Honda) and I don’t live in a mansion.
I don’t throw out anything, I try to sell it at market value or give away to someone that needs a phone. If you look at the messaging from Android, they provide two years of updates (sometimes it is stretched to 3) and then no more updates. That is when I know it is time to switch phones.
I don’t spend 2k on a phone, I spent 800$ on my current Pixel 3 XL and I skipped the 4 XL to meet my two year requirement. Now I am due for an upgrade this year
Some will argue that it is best to upgrade every year as that will allow you to minimize your spend. There is some validity to that argument, especially for Android. I spend 1000$ on a new phone, I can probably sell it for 500$ the year after, buy the current phone for 1000$ and I am now only spending 500$ a year. If I wait two years, that premium phone is now 300$ (if you’re lucky) with no updates and my spend is now 700$. Sure that works out to 350$ over two years but that is assuming you sell the obsolete phone. Even so, wouldn’t it be better to get a new phone every year to enjoy the features it has to offer for a little extra spend?
Also consider, how much slower is the phone over time? As the OS gets upgraded, the phone bogs down. What about battery life? The planned obsolescence is very real.
Apple isn’t greedy? Are you kidding? The top tier iPhone will set you back 2000$, that is double what it would cost with Android. At that price, you need to use that phone for 4 years. But what if you are a klutz and constantly drop it? How is the battery life after 2 years? Can you really stretch it 4 years? Do you want to?
Not sure where you got the idea that I simply throw out my cell phones every two years. I never said that. All I said was that I have come to grips with the fact that I need to replace my phone every two years.
Not sure what people with poverty wages fit into the conversation either. Those people can choose to replace their phone whenever they please. There is a healthy used market and they can get an older premium phone for the same price as a new entry level phone. It is their choice.
My argument is that if you are going to buy a device that you depend on every day and use every day, don’t cheap out
Jun 23rd, 2020 12:22 pm
Slip of the tongue of today
Word (of today)!
Jun 23rd, 2020 12:56 pm
What I consider obsolete maybe perfectly fine for someone else. If they don’t like what I am offering they don’t have to accept / buy it.tntdeal wrote: ↑ It's hypocritical to sell/give it on something you consider obsolete and useless. You do not practice what you preach.
It's your personal choice to upgrade frequently or have as many and/or fancy phones as you want, but it's rather wrong to criticize and denigrate people for not making the same choice as you, especially for a false choice forced by greed.
I think I see the problem.
Jun 23rd, 2020 1:20 pm
Not out of context and not slip of the tongue at all. You even repeated it multiple times. You have big problem with words. Understanding and using. ByeGee wrote: ↑ What I consider obsolete maybe perfectly fine for someone else. If they don’t like what I am offering they don’t have to accept / buy it.
I am not criticizing people for their choice in phones, I am saying that there is a time to upgrade. When your phone is falling apart and you only get two hours on a full charge then it is time to consider getting a new phone. I don’t care if you buy an entry level model or a premium model. Don’t be cheap and replace the phone when it needs to be replaced.
If you think that Apple charging 2000$ for a premium phone is not greedy, then you have more dollars than I do. Tell me how well that 6s is running after 5 years
I think I see the problem.
My post was taken out of context. I am not asking anyone to buy premium phones. I am asking people to replace their phones when it needs to be replaced. Don’t be cheap and try to hang on to a 5 year old phone that is slowing dying.
I have a co-worker than is using an old iPhone, she calls me on it and there are constant problems with dropped calls, poor battery life etc. I can’t understand why she won’t buy a new phone, she uses this phones every day for work and it is constantly by her side. Yet, she will spend good money on a poor investment (Mercedes) but will not spend money on a reliable cell phone that she desperately needs for work. It boggles my mind
If you need a new phone, buy one. DON’T BE CHEAP
Jun 23rd, 2020 3:25 pm
If you have a problem with my posts, I suggest you stop reading them. You’re welcome to block me.
Jun 23rd, 2020 4:45 pm
There are many better ways to invest in a phone than being an a..ole telling people being cheap when they don't do it the way you do. It's nothing cheap buying a good phone and use it for as long as it is practical. Too hard to understand?