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Does anyone know about heaving floor?

I am going to buy a house built in 2008, it's a two-story house with walk-out basement. The inspection report shows the house floors are heaving: There is a crown in the basement floor, appears to have heaved. Flooring system is high in the middle, appears basement floor has heaved and has lifted the floors above.Second floor is high in the middle as well.

I am wondering how does these issues affect our living? do I need to fix them? who do I look for and how much would it be?

Thank you in advance.
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Sounds like a home you should avoid. If it’s doing the same thing over 3 stories, might be structural. I have heard of them sinking, not so much heaving.
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lamin wrote: Sounds like a home you should avoid. If it’s doing the same thing over 3 stories, might be structural. I have heard of them sinking, not so much heaving.
Thank you. I talked to the agent, she said it's been there for a long time, it won't affect anything, but I insisted on looking for an engineer to check it out, there should be a way to fix it, isn't it? it's a 800k house, if nobody buys it, then what to do with it?
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amybear wrote: Thank you. I talked to the agent, she said it's been there for a long time, it won't affect anything, but I insisted on looking for an engineer to check it out, there should be a way to fix it, isn't it? it's a 800k house, if nobody buys it, then what to do with it?
Sure, agent’s word to get the sale. There is reason it’s still there. Walk away!
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amybear wrote: an engineer to check it out, there should be a way to fix it, isn't it?
Your engineer should be able to give you a ballpark figure on how much a proper repair will cost.

Almost anything can be fixed, but the costs may be too high for some things to be worth fixing.

Foundation problems are expensive to fix in existing structures. It may be more cost effective to tear the house down and build another one.
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amybear wrote: I am going to buy a house built in 2008, it's a two-story house with walk-out basement. The inspection report shows the house floors are heaving: There is a crown in the basement floor, appears to have heaved. Flooring system is high in the middle, appears basement floor has heaved and has lifted the floors above.Second floor is high in the middle as well.

I am wondering how does these issues affect our living? do I need to fix them? who do I look for and how much would it be?

Thank you in advance.
What is meant by heaving? Do you mean the joists have sagged leaving the floor over the load walls higher than the parts being held by the saggy joists? That does happen in older homes.
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amybear wrote: I am going to buy a house built in 2008, it's a two-story house with walk-out basement. The inspection report shows the house floors are heaving: There is a crown in the basement floor, appears to have heaved. Flooring system is high in the middle, appears basement floor has heaved and has lifted the floors above.Second floor is high in the middle as well.

I am wondering how does these issues affect our living? do I need to fix them? who do I look for and how much would it be?

Thank you in advance.
Could it be the opposite? The outer walls have settled and the middle is near original height? It seems odd to have the middle of the basement floor to heave. Frost can heave things but I wouldn't expect that under the middle of the basement floor.
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Why are you so stuck on this problem house?
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Stay far away from this house unless its dirt cheap and you plan on a full gut and reno. My guess would be that here is a foundation or load bearing wall running down the center of the home with the floor joints running perpendicular to this wall. Its possible that one side of the foundation has settled or shifted causing that half of the joints to shift resulting in a teetertotter type scenario. If you're serious about purchasing this house, definitely consult a reputable structural engineer that has experience in residential home construction.
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Beneful1 wrote: Why are you so stuck on this problem house?
Because it is the most beautiful house in a perfect location for me
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fergy wrote: Could it be the opposite? The outer walls have settled and the middle is near original height? It seems odd to have the middle of the basement floor to heave. Frost can heave things but I wouldn't expect that under the middle of the basement floor.
the inspector told me it might be because of the clay under the foundation expand because of the moisture, I am seeking for an engineer to check it out, but they will be work on Monday, I am just curious whether anyone had the same problem here.
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dealhunting wrote: Stay far away from this house unless its dirt cheap and you plan on a full gut and reno. My guess would be that here is a foundation or load bearing wall running down the center of the home with the floor joints running perpendicular to this wall. Its possible that one side of the foundation has settled or shifted causing that half of the joints to shift resulting in a teetertotter type scenario. If you're serious about purchasing this house, definitely consult a reputable structural engineer that has experience in residential home construction.
Yes, I will, but have to wait until Monday. hope someone could refer a good engineer around saskatoon area.
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amybear wrote: Thank you. I talked to the agent, she said it's been there for a long time, it won't affect anything, but I insisted on looking for an engineer to check it out, there should be a way to fix it, isn't it? it's a 800k house, if nobody buys it, then what to do with it?
The house was built in 2008 not 1908. A 13 yr old house shouldn’t have heaving floors. There is something wrong with the house structurally.
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I would guess there is something significantly wrong with this house. I think the house of your dreams could very well become a house of nightmares.

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fergy wrote: Could it be the opposite? The outer walls have settled and the middle is near original height? It seems odd to have the middle of the basement floor to heave. Frost can heave things but I wouldn't expect that under the middle of the basement floor.
actually, your guessing sounds reasonable, because the balcony has a slop which shows the fence side is higher than the wall side. but the inspector guessing is clay under the foundation pop up
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The fact that it hasn't been snatched up yet in this market by a higher bidder, says a lot... walk away!

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