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Dog breed suggestions?

Hello Guys,
I want to buy a dog - whats your breed suggestion for the first time owner?

(I like big dogs :/ )
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Word(s) of advice: Get a dog that suits your lifestyle.
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EafF77933 wrote: Hello Guys,
I want to buy a dog - whats your breed suggestion for the first time owner?

(I like big dogs :/ )
Its impossible to suggest a breed without having more details. How many people in the family. Any young kids, Will someone be home most of the time with the dog ? Any allergies in the family ? How active do you want your lifestyle with the dog. Is it a family dog or a guard dog. How much training will you do ? Any other pets in the family? Do you live in a house on condo ? Any reputable breeder will ask all these questions and a lot more. I like big dogs is not enough info. There are also different sizes - big is obviously not small but a 'big' dog can describe anything from a lab to Bernese mountain dog.
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You guys are right, I complete forgot to mention my lifestyle
Thanks @vernonco

The dog will be alone for sometime ~5hrs day
No allergies
No kids
Im active but not a sportish (lets say 5/10)
Family of 2
Family dog for sure
I dont know anything about training but willing to give training of course
Live in a house
No other pets




Breeds I like in general are Labrador, bernesse, goldens, rottweilers a big no for: napolitans, masstif, Newfoundland etc
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EafF77933 wrote: You guys are right, I complete forgot to mention my lifestyle
Thanks @vernonco

The dog will be alone for sometime ~5hrs day
No allergies
No kids
Im active but not a sportish (lets say 5/10)
Family of 2
Family dog for sure
I dont know anything about training but willing to give training of course
Live in a house
No other pets

Breeds I like in general are Labrador, bernesse, goldens, rottweilers a big no for: napolitans, masstif, Newfoundland etc
First step : Canadian Kennel Club https://www.ckc.ca/en/Choosing-a-Dog/Choosing-a-Breed
Read the temperament and activity level for breeds you are interested in.
Second step : talk to people who own the breed. You will get good positive feedback but ask the tougher questions. Grooming, health problems, etc.
Third step : visit at least two reputable breeders for the breeds you have narrowed down. Might have to wait till Covid issues ease up. Any good breeder will spend time explaining things to you and may even recommend another breed. They also have a multiple page checklist they will go thru with you to ensure the dog and you are a good fit.
Fourth Step : Purchase a dog. Or from a shelter. For first time owners, I recommend purchase as you are not experienced enough to deal with issues from a shelter dog.
Fifth step : Find a good vet in your community. Take the dog for check up and shots. Decide if you want to enroll in pet insurance. Pick a groomer.
Sixth step : very very important. Enroll in dog training so you and your dog learn together.

From your list, all good family dogs though the rotweiler might be a bit more iffy for a first timer. Labs and Golden retrievers will shed so if you are concerned about shedding, get a doodle mix like a labradoodle, golden doodle or Aussie doodle. Bernese doodle are also great. Between my family and friends we have a bunch of dogs - Portuguese water dogs, Bernese doodle, Labdoodle, etc.
Hope this helps. Enjoy the journey and you new family member. Lot of work and lot of fun.
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Adopt an older dog -- 9 times out of 10, they're so much easier to deal with. My neighbour just adopted a 10 year old ex-sled husky and it's the sweetest most docile dog ever. It's basically ran its entire life and just wants to chill and hangout now. Another colleague adopted a 7 year old mix with "behavioural issues" that she said she never even encountered. Perfect dog.

Having a puppy, you'll need constant care for the first 3 months (as in, never take your eyes off them unless they're in their crate). You'll also need to read a ton to ensure you know what you're doing.
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vernonco wrote: Fourth Step : Purchase a dog. Or from a shelter. For first time owners, I recommend purchase as you are not experienced enough to deal with issues from a shelter dog.
Not all dogs in shelters are there for behavioural issues! You also don't increase the demand for breeders in the off-chance that it doesn't work out and the dog needs to returned to the shelter. People who buy from breeders need to commit to that dog for life in my mind. Adoptions can be more experimental or temporary if they have to be.
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djdestroyer wrote: Not all dogs in shelters are there for behavioural issues! You also don't increase the demand for breeders in the off-chance that it doesn't work out and the dog needs to returned to the shelter. People who buy from breeders need to commit to that dog for life in my mind. Adoptions can be more experimental or temporary if they have to be.
I agree that not all of them are there for behavior issues. But since this is a first time dog owner I just thought to take out any uncertainty. OP does not have kids so maybe a rescue dog is fine. I did hear that a lot of shelters are out of dogs as people adopted during pandemic.
I also agree that people who buy from breeders need to commit. Which is why any good breeder is very stringent. I believe our breeder has had a max of 3 dogs back in 5 years. It is also part of breeder contracts that you sell/return the dog back to the breeder if circumstances change and they place the dog in a new home. Our breeder almost always has a wait list of 6-9 months.
This may be broad strokes but I suspect that most rescue dogs are there because people did not do due diligence and likely from puppy mills.
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Always suggest a lab. I've had 2 now so I'm biased. But they are awesome family dogs.
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Given your criteria, a lab or a Golden Retriever seem like good options.

Check out Redemption Paws if you’re interested in going the rescue route. They have several younger dogs up for adoption that would be out of that chewing/peeing in the house puppy phase. They’re based in Toronto and their dogs are not held in shelters they’re fostered until they’re adopted.
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amz155 - first, how is your pup. I am not one of those who is afraid to ask since I know how horrible the whole process is.

Secondly, I looked at the Redemption Paws site and was interested that they require pet insurance. We had pet insurance and wouldn't be without it, although we would have been further ahead with our just passed dog if we had had a bank account but then hindsight is everything. We also bought all of his meds at our vet clinic. Both of which do not seem to be popular opinions on this particular forum.

We signed our pup up for Vet Insurance, later sold to Trupanion at 13 months and he was still billed at 13 months even though he was 16 plus years when he passed, but our premiums had increased from $32 to $140 per month, based on admin fees, number of dogs in the neighbourhood, where you live etc. So I could just imagine what a senior dog would cost per month! But they do not require a fenced back yard which is a good thing because our yard is not fully fenced and besides a hound can go under a fence and a Spitz can jump over a fence. Our dogs were always on a regular length leash with one of us attached.

Ideally, a person would adopt a dog who has been covered by Pet Insurance since a pup!

I did e-mail Redemption Paws to ask about pet insurance because basically I want to know. Vet references, you name it, are not a problem! But a senior dog would definitely be required based on our ages.
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djdestroyer wrote: Adopt an older dog -- 9 times out of 10, they're so much easier to deal with. My neighbour just adopted a 10 year old ex-sled husky and it's the sweetest most docile dog ever. It's basically ran its entire life and just wants to chill and hangout now. Another colleague adopted a 7 year old mix with "behavioural issues" that she said she never even encountered. Perfect dog.

Having a puppy, you'll need constant care for the first 3 months (as in, never take your eyes off them unless they're in their crate). You'll also need to read a ton to ensure you know what you're doing.
I wouldn't get a really old dog as it's heartbreaking when they pass away.

I love French and English bulldogs but they are more costly to keep so not good if you don't have a large budget for your dog.

What size dog do you like? Friendliest big dogs include standard poodles and collies as well as the ones previously mentioned.
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I got two bulldogs (english).

They were reallybaxtivr when younger, now not so much (1 and 4 years now).

Medical bills are high, we paid out $20,000.00 for our older one (cherry eye complications) even our dog insurance conpnany reduced our plan to only 50% coverage. They are total couch patatoes, and don't listen much but are teddy bears.

We had two labs before, great dogs but higher maintenance.

Research the health issues before buying the breed of your choice.
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Blanche123 wrote: amz155 - first, how is your pup. I am not one of those who is afraid to ask since I know how horrible the whole process is.

Secondly, I looked at the Redemption Paws site and was interested that they require pet insurance. We had pet insurance and wouldn't be without it, although we would have been further ahead with our just passed dog if we had had a bank account but then hindsight is everything. We also bought all of his meds at our vet clinic. Both of which do not seem to be popular opinions on this particular forum.

We signed our pup up for Vet Insurance, later sold to Trupanion at 13 months and he was still billed at 13 months even though he was 16 plus years when he passed, but our premiums had increased from $32 to $140 per month, based on admin fees, number of dogs in the neighbourhood, where you live etc. So I could just imagine what a senior dog would cost per month! But they do not require a fenced back yard which is a good thing because our yard is not fully fenced and besides a hound can go under a fence and a Spitz can jump over a fence. Our dogs were always on a regular length leash with one of us attached.

Ideally, a person would adopt a dog who has been covered by Pet Insurance since a pup!

I did e-mail Redemption Paws to ask about pet insurance because basically I want to know. Vet references, you name it, are not a problem! But a senior dog would definitely be required based on our ages.
Thanks for asking @Blanche123. We said goodbye on Saturday afternoon Crying Face I’m still quite upset about it so I don’t have the capacity to write much more about it now but might in the future. Even just these few sentences have my eyes welling up and my throat choked. We’re gutted.

With the insurance, I *think* that they require proof of insurance for one month; so for the first month you adopt. I’m not 100% sure about that though, so if you hear back, would love to hear what they say :)

Unfortunately, the state that they only reply to people who are found to be a suitable match for a dog. After submitting an application, I wrote to them to ask how we might know that we’ve not been chosen for their current adoptables and how we could express interest in new rescues. Still waiting to hear back.
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amz155 - I am very sorry about your pup. We are still very upset as well and I can well understand how you feel gutted.

I will definitely update you if I hear anything back from Redemption Paws. The thing is I am not certain if my e-mail even went. I used the Contact Us button and afterwards all was said and done they listed a contact e-mail. The e-mail doesn't show in my send but it often doesn't when I send an e-mail in such a manner.

I did not ask about adoption, but gave enough info that they would be crazy not to contact me. We will see what happens. All of my questions were legitimate - and I do have excellent vet references, household insurance, dogs have always on a 6 ft. leash, plus a ton of experience with dogs that are considered a challenge, despite the biggest weighing 25 lbs. (I manage to put this into the e-mail).

I did read what you had to have with you on dog pick-up day - and we would have all that was required. The Pet Insurance is a hard one because it can be read either way - either the 30 days free or ongoing. Although I do not know how the rescue would know if someone stopped the pet insurance after one month. I expect I know who they use and it wouldn't be my first choice. If the rescue has an arrangement with their preferred pet insurer that would be the only way I could think it would work and even then it would be difficult to administer once the pup had been adopted.

I would also have to meet the pup as pups choose me rather than me choose them. It doesn't help that they all love me. I can't foster because we would be "foster failures" as in keep the pup.

Again, I am so sorry for the loss of your pup. Just yesterday one of the people on the street asked why he hadn't seen my husband walking our dog. He figured that he just kept missing him or it was the heat. So he had to tell him that our pup had passed. He couldn't believe it because he looked like a puppy until the last 4 days. I am sure you will encounter the same. But the good news is that your pup had a good and long life with you so at least you can take solace from that. The bad news is they don't live just long enough to predecease us.
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amz155 - I heard back from Redemption Paws. The e-mail reads that as far as pet insurance goes, based on the specific dog's age and health, pet insurance can be negotiable for senior animals.

And, she mentioned that a fenced yard is not a requirement. 17 years ago, 3 rescues hung up on us (and on our vet who tried to intervene) because we did not have a fenced yard! Our neuro also got involved. We used to have hounds who had the dreaded back/neck disc issues - 2 different dogs and both had the surgeries. Enter the Spitz - one of the vets at our clinic had a mother who raised them.

I still wonder how pet insurance is enforced for younger dogs. Of course I did mention our ages and that we would be looking at adopting a senior pet. Of course there are a lot of things that we would need to consider - COVID-19 being one of them.
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Just a word on labradors, golden retrievers and similar water sport dogs. They have an oily coat as it's needed for their occupation (retrieval of waterfowl) and you might find they may impart an odour - possibly permeating - on everything.
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Thanks again, @Blanche123 Smiling Face With Open Mouth

I think it’s awesome that you’d like to adopt a senior dog. I’d think that younger dogs are more in demand and senior dogs get skipped over more. I’d be interested in a senior dog too, if we hadn’t just gone through a loss. I feel like it would be too much to say goodbye to another older dog any time soon.

I like their perspective about not needing to have a fenced in yard. From what I understand, not having a fenced in yard isn’t seen as a disadvantage because they really want/prefer dog owners who will walk their dogs instead of only letting them out in the yard.

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