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Due to that young gentleman driving 308 km/h, ON Premier says suspension of license should even be longer than 30 days

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Due to that young gentleman driving 308 km/h, ON Premier says suspension of license should even be longer than 30 days

Police see a spike in speeding and stunt driving during COVID-19 pandemic
Premier Ford said he supports increasing licence suspension to 30 days
Doug Ford described driving 308 km/h as "reckless" and said he agrees with calls to increase the current roadside licence suspension and vehicle impound of seven days to a month or more.

"Especially [for] that young gentleman and it should even be longer than 30 days of suspension, someone going 200 kilometres over the speed limit," he said. "That's staggering."

The premier added he was thankful no one was hurt and hoped the driver would never make the same mistake again.

"You've got to throw the book at these people because they're putting everyone's lives in jeopardy when they do something that reckless and careless."

Ontario's Ministry of Transportation (MTO) said it's continuing to review its policies, but a spokesperson argued the province "already has some of the toughest penalties for extreme speeding and aggressive driving in the world."

The escalating penalties for drivers caught driving more than 50 km/h over the speed limit include that seven-day licence suspension and immediate roadside impoundment of the vehicle involved in order to immediately stop the risk they pose, said Lee Alderson, a senior issues advisor with the ministry.

Those roadside measures are backed up by a maximum fine of $10,000, which the MTO pointed out happens to be the highest fine for that offence in Canada.

A driver's licence can also be suspended for up to two years following a first conviction and that jumps to 10 years for a second conviction within a decade. Punishments also include six demerit points and up to six months in jail.

Police also have the option of laying criminal charges for "excessive speed or high-risk behaviours" that end with someone getting injured or dying, Aldderson added.

"We are sending a clear message that this behaviour has no place on Ontario's roads."

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308 should be jail time, not just suspension and impounding.
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I even saw some street racing earlier this week near my office while I was out for a lunch time stroll. MB C350 vs a Dodge Charger racing NB on Dufferin (just south of Yorkdale Mall), the amazing part of this was at around 1pm and the traffic was very light at the time (as it has been for many weeks). They must be doing 120kph+ at the time. Face Screaming In Fear Limit is 50kph on that stretch of road.
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Complete stupidity of Doug Ford.

Sorry, this is not the political forum, but Ford is stupid. He proves it every time he speaks.

This suspension is done at the side of the road, before the offender has a chance to go to court.

License suspension should NOT exist prior to the court date. I think in English you say 'presumed innocent until proven guilty', or something like that. I'm sure you have heard of it.

We live in a broken system, and Doug Ford wants to make it worse.

What he needs to do is to impose these suspensions AFTER the day in court. Imagine: 30 days suspension, and 6 months later, at trial, the offender is found not guilty... and it was 30 days suspension for nothing. We have a completely illogical "justice" system.
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"You've got to throw the book at these people"

Big yes for me too on this. Too many idiots on the road right now
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motomondo wrote: Complete stupidity of Doug Ford.

Sorry, this is not the political forum, but Ford is stupid. He proves it every time he speaks.

This suspension is done at the side of the road, before the offender has a chance to go to court.

License suspension should NOT exist prior to the court date. I think in English you say 'presumed innocent until proven guilty', or something like that. I'm sure you have heard of it.

We live in a broken system, and Doug Ford wants to make it worse.

What he needs to do is to impose these suspensions AFTER the day in court. Imagine: 30 days suspension, and 6 months later, at trial, the offender is found not guilty... and it was 30 days suspension for nothing. We have a completely illogical "justice" system.
Oh please. Hate him all you want, but he has handled the current situation quite well and I bet he will be re-elected. He isn't stupid and at least he speaks his mind unlike Trudope that pussy foots everything. But yes the immediate suspension on the side of the road has always been pure bullshit. Guilty till proven innocent...
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motomondo wrote: Complete stupidity of Doug Ford.

Sorry, this is not the political forum, but Ford is stupid. He proves it every time he speaks.

This suspension is done at the side of the road, before the offender has a chance to go to court.

License suspension should NOT exist prior to the court date. I think in English you say 'presumed innocent until proven guilty', or something like that. I'm sure you have heard of it.

We live in a broken system, and Doug Ford wants to make it worse.

What he needs to do is to impose these suspensions AFTER the day in court. Imagine: 30 days suspension, and 6 months later, at trial, the offender is found not guilty... and it was 30 days suspension for nothing. We have a completely illogical "justice" system.
If you're in the driver's seat caught for driving wrecklessly, your ass needs to stay off the road... until you're proven innocent.
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It's because stunt driving is a civil (strict liability offence) under HTA and not criminal code offence so you have 'guilty until proven innocent.'
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Soichiro wrote: Please read the Complete Forum Rules & Tips - Read Before Posting, no political content allowed in this forum.

Do you want this thread to be moved to the Off Topic forum?
Why are you singling me out? I'm not the one that started the political nonsense and motomondo even said this isn't a political forum yet still posts what he posted LOL

Whatever, this will probably be moved to wheels and tires anyways.
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vkizzle wrote: If you're in the driver's seat caught for driving wrecklessly, your ass needs to stay off the road... until you're proven innocent.
You are not getting it. It goes against one of the core principles of the legal system. It has to be the same, all across, no matter what the charges are (culpable homicide or stunt driving).
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Kingsmen17 wrote: It's because stunt driving is a civil (strict liability offence) under HTA and not criminal code offence so you have 'guilty until proven innocent.'
Yup and that's how they skirt around it. I'm all for idiots being taken off the road but the process needs to be right. What if you were doing 140 but got pulled over for doing 151 by a poorly calibrated gun? Instant suspension...
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EP32k2 wrote: Oh please. Hate him all you want, but he has handled the current situation quite well and I bet he will be re-elected. He isn't stupid and at least he speaks his mind unlike Trudope that pussy foots everything. But yes the immediate suspension on the side of the road has always been pure bullshit. Guilty till proven innocent...
To read how much I hate both Ford and Trudeau for their management of this crisis, please visit the Off Topic forum.
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motomondo wrote: You are not getting it. It goes against one of the core principles of the legal system. It has to be the same, all across, no matter what the charges are (culpable homicide or stunt driving).
In which they would be charged with some form of restriction(s) while awaiting trial.
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Big yes to this! A strict implementation is best to maintain discipline along our roads and prevent unwanted accidents.
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vkizzle wrote: In which they would be charged with some form of restriction(s) while awaiting trial.
Restrictions would be dictated by a judge. Not the cops.
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motomondo wrote: Restrictions would be dictated by a judge. Not the cops.
The stunt driving law was passed by the courts...the cops are just enforcing it.
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Soichiro wrote: You did not need to respond by making a comparison on two politicians. You are opening a political discussion in this thread.
Motomondo and I have left this alone now, why do you insist on continuing? Are you trying to get your thread moved? Cause if you do I will certainly help you with this.
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Good, make it 60 days. Nobody needs a car that goes over 110km/hr.
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Driving is a privilege, not a right. Some people around here seem to forget that.

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