Is East York Collegiate improving?

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Jul 28th, 2021 9:08 pm

torontodad1234 [OP]: Newbie; Jul 18, 2021; 3 posts; 5 upvotes

Jul 28th, 2021 9:08 pm

Is East York Collegiate improving?

I am thinking of buying a house in East York. I have two young girls and I want this house purchase to be one we stay in for a long time. The neighbourhood is nice, the elementary school is good and the middle school is ok.

I have heard that although it is improving, East York Collegiate is not a desirable school and many parents in the catchment area try their best to enroll their kids in 'better' schools like Leaside and Malvern.

Can anyone please provide some insight on East York Collegiate? Is it improving? It is the main reason I am hesitant on purchasing in the catchment area.

Also, any info on optional attendance would be appreciated. Is there a good chance of being admitted to the more 'popular' schools out of the catchment area? Or is it unlikely since there are way more applicants than spots available?

Any info would be appreciated. Also if anyone can suggest any other neighbourhoods with good schools besides the well-known expensive ones like Leaside, North York etc., it would be appreciated.

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Jul 30th, 2021 2:43 pm

cybercavalier: Deal Addict; Mar 6, 2015; 1625 posts; 256 upvotes

Jul 30th, 2021 2:43 pm

Out of common sense, it is better to ask people in real life who lives in the area than online, although people online can help you out.

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Jul 30th, 2021 5:27 pm

smartie: Deal Guru; Dec 5, 2006; 13778 posts; 9176 upvotes; Markham

Jul 30th, 2021 5:27 pm

From this, doesn't seem good

http://www.findschool.ca/web/SchoolView ... ID=1020960

Jul 31st, 2021 10:38 am

OntEdTchr: Deal Addict; Dec 27, 2013; 3673 posts; 1423 upvotes; Woodbridge

Jul 31st, 2021 10:38 am

How young are your girls? A community can change a lot in several years.

I have two colleagues whose kids are entering Grade 9 in TDSB in September and both of them are attending schools outside their catchment area. I'm not sure if they're attending specialized programs or received any sort of special permission, but I'll reach out and see if they can give me some info about how easy it is to enroll in schools outside your area.

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Aug 1st, 2021 9:21 am

JHW: Deal Addict; Nov 24, 2004; 4576 posts; 1153 upvotes; Toronto

Aug 1st, 2021 9:21 am

The TDSB "optional attendance" program (where students can attend a high school outside of the normal catchment area) already varies school-by-school and, board-wide, may not last for much longer. There's lots of talk of it being discontinued.

Depending on how old OP's kids are, it may not be an option by the time they are in high school age. And as @OntEdTchr mentions, a school can change a lot in a short time.

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Aug 1st, 2021 10:09 am

OntEdTchr: Deal Addict; Dec 27, 2013; 3673 posts; 1423 upvotes; Woodbridge

Aug 1st, 2021 10:09 am

The response I got from my colleague is that transferring to another school depends on available space at that school. The process is similar to how we approach transfers in York. Some schools are open to transfers, others are closed based on projected enrolment. She also mentioned that there are many options with respect to specialized programs such as extended French (Malvern, Riverdale), arts (Rosedale), MAST (Danforth Tech), athletics (Birchmount) etc. That may provide other avenues to accessing different schools.

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Aug 8th, 2021 11:16 am

aquaman123: Sr. Member; Sep 23, 2010; 831 posts; 3130 upvotes; T Dot

Aug 8th, 2021 11:16 am

It really depends on what is and will be important to you and your kids. You simply won't know if it'll be all or some or none of: athletics or music or their 70s revival woodwind orchestra (I just made that last one up).
You said your kids are young, so it's hard to say how EYCI will improve (or not) when they go there in 2,5,10 years...

One tool you can look at is the Frasier Institute's rankings https://www.compareschoolrankings.org/ although there is a lot of controversy surrounding it.
Article from the Star about the FI rankings https://outline.com/KapwDL

Another tool is the EQAO results: https://www.eqao.com/the-assessments/results/

A colleague of mine deliberately bought a house in the 90s in the catchment area for Bayview SS, so their son could get an IB. Both parents sacrificed/added an extra hour commute, each way per person for this but it seems to have paid off, he just finished is MA+PhD in 5y from Waterloo.

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Aug 8th, 2021 1:33 pm

JHW: Deal Addict; Nov 24, 2004; 4576 posts; 1153 upvotes; Toronto

Aug 8th, 2021 1:33 pm

aquaman123 wrote: ↑ One tool you can look at is the Frasier Institute's rankings https://www.compareschoolrankings.org/ although there is a lot of controversy surrounding it.
Article from the Star about the FI rankings https://outline.com/KapwDL

Another tool is the EQAO results: https://www.eqao.com/the-assessments/results/

The FI rankings for Ontario schools are based entirely on EQAO scores.

The issue with EQAO is that it was designed to look at individual schools longitudinally (changes over time) rather than a one-time snapshot comparing different schools. Fraser Institute rankings end up conflating all kinds of external factors (parental income and education levels, parental first language, etc.) and so they don't end up being a good indicator of school quality.

For IB, in the school boards that offer it, AFAIK admission to the program does not depend on catchment. YRDSB is not turning kids away from IB because they live in the wrong park of York Region.

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Aug 8th, 2021 8:20 pm

OntEdTchr: Deal Addict; Dec 27, 2013; 3673 posts; 1423 upvotes; Woodbridge

Aug 8th, 2021 8:20 pm

JHW wrote: ↑ For IB, in the school boards that offer it, AFAIK admission to the program does not depend on catchment. YRDSB is not turning kids away from IB because they live in the wrong park of York Region.

Correct.

There are also so many misconceptions about IB that we’re constantly trying to address.

Mar 8th, 2023 7:36 am

kwandar: Newbie; Jan 27, 2007; 59 posts; 9 upvotes; Toronto

Mar 8th, 2023 7:36 am

Late to this thread, but EYCI is pretty good these days. They set up French immersion a few years back and those kids are generally better equipped academically. Now the school pulls in French immersion students along with regular stream.

Daughter went there pre/post covid and she thought it was a good school, no issues. Academics are rigorous. She has offers and scholarships from 5 Universities, so outcome was quite good.

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