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[eBay.ca] Dell Wyse 5470 - 14" FHD, N4100, 4GB / 16GB SSD - RAM/SSD Upgradeable - $262 (CAD, Duties, Shipping, All-in) [Lower $$]

UPDATE 09/24/2020:

FHD Version:
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Dell-Wyse-5470- ... 4726054636

$295 CAD (All-In)
redflagdealsguy wrote: 1366x768p Version:

$262 CAD (All-in)

>> eBay: Dell Wyse 5470 14" N4100 Thin Client Laptop <<

Effective Pre-Tax Price: $232.00 CAD (approx.)

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Hello Gentlemen,

As you know, I've been a sworn enemy of all N-Series Laptops for the longest time now. I've frequently regarded their performance as garbage.

That's changed somewhat, with recent N-Series CPU launches reporting decent CPUMarks. Add to that upgradeability on some models, and we start to reach an attractive price/performance situation. The big selling point here is the cool, quiet, operation and the modern display compared to refurbished laptops at this price range.

Enter the Dell Wyse 5470 at $295 CAD (All-in, Shipped, Ontario), with an effective pre-tax price of $261.06.

>> Deal Link <<

CPU: Celeron N4100
RAM: 4GB RAM (2x SODIMM Upgradeable)
Storage: 16GB eMMC (NVMe SSD Upgradeable)
Screen: 14" FHD Panel
Video 1: HDMI 2.0a (4K60)
Video 2: USB-C Display Port

>> Dell Product Page <<

CPU Performance
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The above represents reasonable performance from a Celeron N-Series CPU, an impossible statement just two years ago.

Proof of RAM/Storage Upgrade Options
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Source: https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/wy ... hin-client

For those of you interested in a reasonable performance thin-light laptop with a modern display, this is a serious consideration. Equivalently priced refurbished units might have comparable processing power, but they'll come at the expense of size (bulk) and display aesthetic (i.e. not-as-nice screens).

Something to consider.

Upgrade Options
redflagdealsguy wrote: RAM + SSD Upgrades
- 4GB SODIMM (8GB Total)
- 128GB NVMe SSD

Cost (approx.): $50 CAD + Tax
Total Package: $315 CAD + HST (Or Equivalent)
Perceived Performance Gains

Start Menu >> 'This PC' >> Right Click Properties >> Advanced System Settings >> Advanced Tab >> Under 'Performance' Click Settings

Replicate below and click 'Apply' once you're done.

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Teardown: RAM & SSD (2280) Upgrade Paths
redflagdealsguy wrote: >> Dell Wyse 5470 Service Manual <<

Below on Page 20: (2x) SODIMM Slots Depicted
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Below on Page 22: (1x) NVMe Slot Depicted (Apparently: Standard 2280)
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Last edited by redflagdealsguy on Sep 24th, 2020 8:54 pm, edited 10 times in total.
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chroma_cg wrote: it doesnt have windows built-in, and hopefully these wyse thin clients arent like chromebooks where you cant install windows at all, despite having windows-compatible hardware
It depends on the build, this one has Windows 10 Professional installed.
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Seller is in Ohio. That opens up the door to taxes and duties.
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the NVMe upgrade option makes this pretty hot but yes unfortunately import duties kills this.
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Arkv wrote: the NVMe upgrade option makes this pretty hot but yes unfortunately import duties kills this.
It's already priced into the title price of $295 CAD, have people skipped their morning coffee?
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Nov 10, 2012
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This is a thin client meant to connect to Citrix or other Remote Desktop servers. In cannot really be used for much else unless you are tech inclined and upgrade it.
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bdearlove12 wrote: This is a thin client meant to connect to Citrix or other Remote Desktop servers. In cannot really be used for much else unless you are tech inclined and upgrade it.
This is the Windows 10 Professional version. This is no different than any other N-Series laptop, except with higher build quality, a better screen, and better I/O.
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Terrible CPU. Entry level Chromebooks have a better CPU for lower cost.
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RAM + SSD Upgrades
- 4GB SODIMM (8GB Total)
- 128GB NVMe SSD

Cost (approx.): $50 CAD + Tax
Total Package: $315 + HST (Or Equivalent)

Don't buy the SSD above until we confirm the form factor, but it's pretty clear at this point that it accepts some sort of NVMe SSD.
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Wtf would you do with a Celeron N processor, it can’t even play 1080p files on your computer without stuttering.
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redflagdealsguy wrote: This is the Windows 10 Professional version. This is no different than any other N-Series laptop, except with higher build quality, a better screen, and better I/O.
And a 16GB drive, which is frankly a non starter.

Have had enough trouble getting updates installed on a Windows 10 machine with a 32GB SSD.

Upgrading to a reasonable SSD means you have to add at least $50 to the price. Still a decent deal, but as is? This machine is not a good idea.
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Altera wrote: Wtf would you do with a Celeron N processor, it can’t even play 1080p files on your computer without stuttering.
Curious, since I regularly play 1080p files on my N4000 machine without issue.

Perhaps you're using a crappy media player.
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Jan 20, 2011
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This potentially would be a perfect school laptop. I would get one to play with, but the last thing I need right now is another notebook
By Grabthar's Hammer, what a savings
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repatch wrote: Curious, since I regularly play 1080p files on my N4000 machine without issue.

Perhaps you're using a crappy media player.
He's incorrect, hardware acceleration makes the Celeron N4100 a good video player. Older or inferior players may force software acceleration which may explain his issues.
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Altera wrote: Wtf would you do with a Celeron N processor, it can’t even play 1080p files on your computer without stuttering.
These have Intel UHD 600 Graphics - they can natively decode VP9, so I don't think there is much that you will have trouble with. If AV1 ever takes off, then maybe
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Does anyone know if this laptop has "legacy" boot option in its BIOS (ie for Windows 7)
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bishopper wrote: Terrible CPU. Entry level Chromebooks have a better CPU for lower cost.
Wow, that's quite a swing you got there.

FWIW this CPU is on par with an i5 2540m processor:

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/In ... /812vs3270

Slightly slower single thread, faster multi thread.

Why this comparison? Since I have an i5 2540M based laptop, and it's FAR more than adequate for all the tasks I typically do in a day. Browsing, watching media, editing photos, etc, all works great.

Only exception is video editing, there it's a bit too painful for 1080p streams for me (scrubbing is too stuttery).

I think people have a completely unrealistic expectation of how much CPU power they actually need.

For the price this machine (aside the horribly too tiny SSD) is a great deal.
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repatch wrote: Wow, that's quite a swing you got there.

FWIW this CPU is on par with an i5 2540m processor:

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/In ... /812vs3270

Slightly slower single thread, faster multi thread.

Why this comparison? Since I have an i5 2540M based laptop, and it's FAR more than adequate for all the tasks I typically do in a day. Browsing, watching media, editing photos, etc, all works great.

Only exception is video editing, there it's a bit too painful for 1080p streams for me (scrubbing is too stuttery).

I think people have a completely unrealistic expectation of how much CPU power they actually need.

For the price this machine (aside the horribly too tiny SSD) is a great deal.
I've been waiting for menschs like this guy to pop their head in. I appreciate the shared insight. CPUMark aside, the video hardware acceleration on the N4100 is significantly better than equivalent CPUMark processors like the i5 2540M.

I'm very picky when it comes to hardware, save perhaps the screens, and this one hits a certain price-performance medium that I think RFDers will appreciate.
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