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[eBay.ca] Dell Wyse 5470 - 14" FHD, N4100, 4GB / 16GB SSD - RAM/SSD Upgradeable - $262 (CAD, Duties, Shipping, All-in) [Lower $$]

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repatch wrote: Curious, since I regularly play 1080p files on my N4000 machine without issue.

Perhaps you're using a crappy media player.
Only exception I can think of is if the 1080p files in question are encoded in AV1, which is bit rough for low end cpus.
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Glancealot wrote: I would think this is a much better option than OP, not that i think this all-metal chassis Acer is even a deal though:

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product ... _id=120846
Weaker CPU and GPU ironically, look up the Passmark, it's a 2016 generation CPU / GPU.

Passmark: 2133

Source: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cp ... Hz&id=2886

No upgrade path for the RAM or Storage.

$330 all-in CAD is also more than $295 all-in.

Worse I/O.

It's also sold out.

... And other things I'm sure.
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redflagdealsguy wrote: Weaker CPU and GPU ironically, look up the Passmark, it's a 2016 generation CPU / GPU.

Passmark: 2133

Source: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cp ... Hz&id=2886

No upgrade path for the RAM or Storage.

$330 all-in CAD is also more than $295 all-in.

Worse I/O.

It's also sold out.

... And other things I'm sure.
CPU is immaterially weaker for the intended purposes, but GPU is actually quite a bit stronger, taking a 4200 over a 4100 any day of the week.

i know it's sold out, my point was the other one isn't even considered a deal in my book but is still better than the one you posted, thanks to its metal chassis.

no need to get defensive, from the get go i said "good effort".
Glancealot wrote: Being Seller refurbished makes this a meh deal at most, but OP put a lot of good work into this thread and I think this deserves at least a "good effort" from us.

too bad the PARTY25 code doesn't work anymore, but when it worked, this was a much better deal.

ebay-canada-337-92-all-dell-ultrabook-d ... m-2401222/
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Glancealot wrote: CPU is immaterially weaker for the intended purposes, but GPU is actually quite a bit stronger, taking a 4200 over a 4100 any day of the week.

i know it's sold out, my point was the other one isn't even considered a deal in my book but is still better than the one you posted, thanks to its metal chassis.
Unless you have a time machine that you'll allow us to borrow, your contribution is irrelevant. Go back in time and I'm sure you'll find SEVERAL 'better' deals, but if they aren't available today, they don't count, sorry.
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repatch wrote: Unless you have a time machine that you'll allow us to borrow, your contribution is irrelevant. Go back in time and I'm sure you'll find SEVERAL 'better' deals, but if they aren't available today, they don't count, sorry.
my point was, even if it was available, i wouldn't even consider it a deal...did you miss that part?
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@repatch has covered my points while I was with an evening client. Thank you.

There are still 9 units in play, I have scads of 128GB NVMe drives and small capacity RAM modules.

Meanwhile, I don't think I've seen a device this cheap offer 4K60 and possibly Dual 4K60.

The business argument is now:
- Significant cost savings
- Low power business laptops representing minimal loss risk upon theft or misplacing
- Presentation laptops representing a platform for meeting rooms and seminars
- Modern I/O, interoperability, and design, contributing to a modern office aesthetic
- Silent In-Office Operation

The only reason I'm not buying more than one or two is Corona-related hedging of business risk and conservation of cash.
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redflagdealsguy wrote: The only reason I'm not buying more than one or two is Corona-related hedging of business risk and conservation of cash.
Upvoted for tempting me.
C19 #'s are up and mention of the potential for regional rollbacks has me concerned.
Top that off with 2 out of 3 clients scheduled for today didn't show, I too must conserve cash.
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Glancealot wrote: my point was, even if it was available, i wouldn't even consider it a deal...did you miss that part?
Nope, just pointing out that 'that part' is first off your opinion, and second not very useful to someone wanting a machine TODAY.

COVID19 has changed the world in MANY ways, availability of laptops is just another area affected.

For what's available TODAY? It's a good deal IMHO.
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Crazy how everyone is complaining about the 16gb HD. It should be an absolute no brainer once you read the thread title that you're going to replace the hard drive and you just add at least $50 to the price.

I have an Acer switch 3 bought last year with an n4100 and it's horribly slow and this is compared to a 3rd gen i5 and 6 year old Acer desktop with an AMD processor bought for $400 brand new.
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molybdenum wrote: Crazy how everyone is complaining about the 16gb HD. It should be an absolute no brainer once you read the thread title that you're going to replace the hard drive and you just add at least $50 to the price.

I have an Acer switch 3 bought last year with an n4100 and it's horribly slow and this is compared to a 3rd gen i5 and 6 year old Acer desktop with an AMD processor bought for $400 brand new.
If you kept the eMMC, guaranteed that would've been a major contributor to the slowness. There's a strategic hobbling of these machines so they don't compete with higher tier laptops. Even a 2016-Era N-Series with a proper SSD can handle basic computing reasonably quickly.

Going from 4GB / 16GB to 8GB / 128GB for RAM / Storage is night and day, especially when eMMC is replaced by SSD. For administrative work, office productivity, and presentations, it's more than powerful enough. All reasonable video playback using modern codecs also run smoothly at 1080p/1440p.
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molybdenum wrote: Crazy how everyone is complaining about the 16gb HD. It should be an absolute no brainer once you read the thread title that you're going to replace the hard drive and you just add at least $50 to the price....
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In addendum: clone to new ssd and completely bypassing emmc in boot.
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molybdenum wrote: Crazy how everyone is complaining about the 16gb HD. It should be an absolute no brainer once you read the thread title that you're going to replace the hard drive and you just add at least $50 to the price.

I have an Acer switch 3 bought last year with an n4100 and it's horribly slow and this is compared to a 3rd gen i5 and 6 year old Acer desktop with an AMD processor bought for $400 brand new.
That's most likely because the storage is eMMC.

eMMC is basically spinning disks of rust level of performance. Take the latest processor, pair it with an eMMC drive and you'll start puking.

Switching to a proper SSD (if possible) will turn the performance of a machine from night to day.

Which is why this machine has potential.
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The computer is good for someone who does light multitasking.

I'm a heavy multitasking person (50+ chrome tabs opened, outlook, whatsapp, TWS, Google sheets, doc)
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I was going to place an order, but went a different direction since this won't be available to ship until Oct 22. If anyone wants my 10% off code, here it is: 7BFT0FN44H0SKC
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junkyjunky wrote: I was going to place an order, but went a different direction since this won't be available to ship until Oct 22. If anyone wants my 10% off code, here it is: 7BFT0FN44H0SKC
Someone grabbed that too quickly. Oh well.
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redflagdealsguy wrote: Someone grabbed that too quickly. Oh well.
I think with most ebay discounts like that one, they are account specific. You can't share them. I don't feel 100% positive about that though so i could be wrong.

I'm trying to find something comparable to this unit that isn't on ebay and shipped from the US, but deals are pretty sparse for these sorts of low end machines. I've never opened up a laptop but I think I could figure out the upgrades.
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Bit of noob when it comes to M.2 NVME drives. What does this laptop take? B, M or B+M?
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redflagdealsguy wrote: There's a strategic hobbling of these machines so they don't compete with higher tier laptops.
Assuming this is actually a thin client, eMMC doesn't matter. All the work is being done by a thick server, so the only slowness you'd ever experience is the connection process to the server.

This is why that 1080p $170 Lenovo notebook was a smoking deal for me.
I'm doing no heavy lifting on that machine. It's simply a conduit to a better machine.

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