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[eBay.ca] [ONGOING SEPT 11th]Kobo Arc 7/10HD 30$/60$+7$ shipping!! [REFURB]

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[eBay.ca] [ONGOING SEPT 11th]Kobo Arc 7/10HD 30$/60$+7$ shipping!! [REFURB]

ITS BACK! I got it yesterday and now waiting there are white ones too i wanted a white one... contemplating whether to get a white one or not...

7inch
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Kobo-Arc-7HD-ref ... 2322901967

10 inch [RELISTED!!] (its out of stock again but it comes back now and then i'll keep it updated (Sept 14th)
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Kobo-Arc-7HD-ref ... rmvSB=true

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Guides to ROOT both 7 and 10 inch Tabs
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showth ... ?t=2507886
dead-factorydirect-kobo-arc-10-hd-2560x ... #p26630745

Prep the Kobo
Start your Kobo, do the update, set it up like normal
Open the Settings app, go to Security tab, and turn on the ability to install untrusted stuff (there's two checkboxes for that)
Go to about your kobo, look for the build number, and tap that 7 times, it'll unlock developer mode
Go to the new developer mode and turn on usb debugging (this step seems to be bonus for now, but might be useful if you get into trouble)

Get the right files
On the Kobo, go to this post on the xda forum: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpo ... ostcount=5 and download "tr old.apk"
On your Kobo, open the Downloads app, and install this app (click it if a security warning pops up), open the app and click the button (there's only one). It'll freeze for about 15 seconds then reboot automatically.
On your computer download all the following files from https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/fold ... lZkYWhIQlk:
/cm-12.1.1-20160827-UNOFFICIAL-macallan.zip
Recovery Images/cm-kobo-10hd-twrp-3.0.2.0-r2.img
Flashable Kernel Zips/cm-kobo-10hd-kernel-r8.zip
On your computer download the google apps from this link: http://opengapps.org/?api=5.1&variant=nano (all the right options are already clicked, just hit download)
(optional) For Xposed, download xposed-v87-sdk22-arm.zip from: http://dl-xda.xposed.info/framework/sdk22/arm/
(optional) If you intend to use Netflix, grab drmfix-cm10hd.zip from: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpo ... tcount=352
On your Kobo, go to the Google Play Store, set up an account if you need to, and install Flashify

Install TWRP
Copy all of the files we've downloaded in the above steps to the "Downloads" folder on your Kobo. If you're using a mac, you'll need the free Android File Transfer app on your mac to do so.
On your Kobo open Flashify, then do a backup (Backups tab) and backup anything you can just in case. (connect your Kobo to a computer and copy the backups from Android/data/com.cgollner.flashify/files/backup/ just in case)
In Flashify, flash your Recovery Image. Tap that option, then we're going to find one of the files we copied over, so navigate to your downloads folder, and tap cm-kobo-10hd-twrp-3.0.2.0-r2.img ---- this is TWRP
Give it a minute, it should reboot into TWRP. If not, and you're back to your usual Kobo, reboot, and hold power + volume up (*or power + volume down if that doesn't work*) when it reboots to load into TWRP. If you have any issues, you can open Flashify, tap the options menu in the top-right corner and Reboot into Recovery.

Flash the new ROMs
(optional - do this if you want to remove all the pre-installed Kobo apps and start fresh. If unsure, don't do it.) In TWRP, go to "Wipe" and swipe right. This will wipe /data and /system, but keep any files in other folders (e.g. photos, songs).
In TWRP, tap install, then navigate to the "Downloads" folder, and select the new ROM: cm-12.1.1-20160827-UNOFFICIAL-macallan.zip
Tap "Add more zips" and add cm-kobo-10hd-kernel-r8.zip and open_gapps-arm-5.1-nano-YYYYMMDD.zip (where YYYYMMDD is the date you downloaded the Open GApps package)
If you also downloaded Xposed or the Netflix DRM fix, add those as well.
Swipe right to start the flashing process. This might take a while so be patient. You'll know when it's done when you see "Wipe Cache/Dalvik" and "Reboot System" buttons at the bottom.
When it's done, tap "Wipe Cache/Dalvik" for safe measure then tap Reboot

Enabling Root (optional)
Once your Kobo boots up, open the Settings app
At the bottom go to "About", look for the build number, and tap that 7 times to unlock developer options
Go to "Developer options", find "Root", and tap "Apps only"
If you flashed Xposed, download and install XposedInstaller_3.1.1.apk from: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showth ... ?t=3034811
Last edited by misterlamed on Sep 9th, 2017 1:12 am, edited 12 times in total.
Thread Summary
For $67 the tablet is one hell of a good price, however a couple of things to keep in mind:

Pros
1) great screen resolution, even higher than an iPad
2) screen is sharper than an iPad (iPad is 264ppi compared to 300ppi for this tablet)
3) great price, $67. in reality it probably worth $125 - $150.

Cons
1) 16 GB storage only, and no SD card expansion. (might not matter to some, i certainly don't care since i only use about 10 apps)
2) CPU is very old, 790 geekbench 4 score: https://browser.geekbench.com/android_devices/164
compare that with current CPUs: https://browser.geekbench.com/android-benchmarks
3) only 2gb of ram. I find modern android really should have 3gb to be ideal. but 2gb is doable.
4) runs android 4.2, you can root it and install a later version of android, but based on my experience with rooting android phones and troubleshooting them if you are doing this to save money it is not worth the trouble. Depending on how much your time is worth, with the hours of time you spend on this, your $67 tablet might as well be a $200 when you are done.
5) the biggest problem: this tablet weights 1.4lb. in the tablet world that is massive, keep in mind the very first iPad 1 was 1.5lb and the current iPad is 1lb.

Therefore I decided to pass on this 10" tablet.

Taking the above into account, I was thinking the 7" version might have been a better buy (if it didn't sell out so fast) because it has a slightly sharper screen (323ppi) and wieghs less (0.7 lb overall) but then i looked at the spec sheet carefully and it states it has 1gb of ram. seriously, what were they thinking? This will seriously slow the tablet down even during day to day light use.

so as much as I like the price, I am going to have to pass on this deal.

Hopefully the above notes will be helpful to those deciding to get this tablet (or not).

-- aasoror added (genericasianguy updated guide for CM 12 install on the arc 10HD):
genericasianguy wrote:
Sep 14th, 2017 11:20 am
Thanks goes to @[mgrimace] for these steps. I've updated them to refer to the latest files, added in links to Xposed and the Netflix DRM fix, some optional steps to wipe all pre-installed Kobo apps, and how to enable root after flashing Cyanogenmod 12.1.1.

NOTE: If you are happy with the stock Kobo apps/system, then I'd recommend you stay with it. You can optionally root it to give you more control over the system. Some issues with flashing CM 12.1.1 include some Google Play Store incompatibilities, reported issues with Netflix (but apparently fixable by flashing a DRM fix. Other issues listed here: https://github.com/tdro/android_device_ ... iki#issues

However, if you're a flashaholic like me, like the Android Lollipop interface over Jellybean, and/or have become accustomed to the Rooted/Xposed Android life, proceed :)


Prep the Kobo
  1. Start your Kobo, do the update, set it up like normal
  2. Open the Settings app, go to Security tab, and turn on the ability to install untrusted stuff (there's two checkboxes for that)
  3. In the Settings app, go to About, look for the build number, and tap that 7 times, it'll unlock Developer Options in the main Settings options screen
  4. Go to the main screen in Settings, go to Developer Options and turn on USB Debugging (this step seems to be bonus for now, but might be useful if you get into trouble)

Get the right files
  1. On the Kobo, go to this post on the xda forum: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpo ... ostcount=5 and download "tr old.apk"
  2. Open the Downloads app, and install this app (click it if a security warning pops up), open the app and click the button (there's only one). It'll freeze for about 15 seconds then reboot automatically.
  3. If you are happy with the pre-installed system and apps but just wanted to get root access, you can stop here. Continue on to flash Cyanogenmod v12.1.1 (Android v5.1)
  4. On your computer download all the following files from https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/fold ... lZkYWhIQlk:
    1. /cm-12.1.1-20160827-UNOFFICIAL-macallan.zip
    2. /Recovery Images/cm-kobo-10hd-twrp-3.0.2.0-r2.img
    3. /Flashable Kernel Zips/cm-kobo-10hd-kernel-r8.zip
  5. On your computer download Google Apps from this link: http://opengapps.org/?api=5.1&variant=nano (all the right options are already clicked, just hit download)
  6. (optional) For Xposed, download xposed-v87-sdk22-arm.zip from: http://dl-xda.xposed.info/framework/sdk22/arm/
  7. (optional) If you intend to use Netflix, grab drmfix-cm10hd.zip from: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpo ... tcount=352
  8. On your Kobo, go to the Google Play Store, set up an account if you need to, and install Flashify

Install TWRP
  1. Copy all of the files we've downloaded in the above steps to the "Downloads" folder on your Kobo. If you're using a Mac, you'll need the free Android File Transfer app on your Mac to do so.
  2. On your Kobo open Flashify, then do a backup (Backups tab) and backup anything you can just in case (kernel and recovery). (connect your Kobo to a computer and copy the backups from Android/data/com.cgollner.flashify/files/backup/ just in case)
  3. In Flashify, flash your Recovery Image. Tap that option, then we're going to find one of the files we copied over, so navigate to your downloads folder, and tap cm-kobo-10hd-twrp-3.0.2.0-r2.img ---- this is TWRP
  4. Give it a minute, it should reboot into TWRP. If not, and you're back to your usual Kobo, reboot, and hold power + volume up (*or power + volume down if that doesn't work*) when it reboots to load into TWRP. If you have any issues, you can open Flashify, tap the options menu in the top-right corner and Reboot into Recovery.

Flash the new ROMs
  1. (optional - do this if you want to remove all the pre-installed Kobo apps and start fresh. If unsure, don't do it.) In TWRP, go to "Wipe" and swipe right. This will wipe /data and /system, but keep any files in other folders (e.g. photos, songs).
  2. In TWRP, tap install, then navigate to the "Downloads" folder, and select the new ROM: cm-12.1.1-20160827-UNOFFICIAL-macallan.zip
  3. Tap "Add more zips" and add cm-kobo-10hd-kernel-r8.zip and open_gapps-arm-5.1-nano-YYYYMMDD.zip (where YYYYMMDD is the date you downloaded the Open GApps package)
  4. If you also downloaded Xposed or the Netflix DRM fix, add those as well.
  5. Swipe right to start the flashing process. This might take a while so be patient. You'll know when it's done when you see "Wipe Cache/Dalvik" and "Reboot System" buttons at the bottom.
  6. When it's done, tap "Wipe Cache/Dalvik" for safe measure then tap Reboot

Enabling Root (optional)
  1. Once your Kobo boots up, open the Settings app
  2. At the bottom go to "About", look for the build number, and tap that 7 times to unlock developer options
  3. Go to "Developer options", find "Root", and tap "Apps only"
  4. If you flashed Xposed, download and install XposedInstaller_3.1.1.apk from: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showth ... ?t=3034811

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They must really have a ton of these.
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It's literally OK if you watch web videos or something. 16GB limits saving videos internally but screen is really not bad. Definitely cannot get a better screen for this price.

I think it's faster than Sony Xperia Tablet Z when rendering web pages. I sold mine while ago abut at this price I'm thinking again. I'm talking 10" version I have no clue about 7" ones.
Last edited by 42energy on Sep 9th, 2017 1:21 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Im nervous about the quality of the refurbs.
Some people said they had lots of scratches others said the unit were like new.
I would jump on the 7hd if it had a custom rom. Its stuck at android 4.2.2.
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You really just have to put Youtube or MX player and get contents off the web. I'm not sure if you miss some features running older Android. I don't have that old of an device to test it.

I took 10" on vacation and it was fine. Between this and $200-300 windows Atom laptops, you are not missing out much. It might be tad slower but much better screen for sure and much better on flights.
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Well, some apps are too old on this device, like google home. What bothered me the most was that it didnt support "full screen" in app like Moon reader.
I had to root and install xposed+gravity box to get full screen.
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Will the 10" support Netflix and it's new download feature?
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cats_on_burners wrote:
Sep 9th, 2017 1:22 am
Im nervous about the quality of the refurbs.
Some people said they had lots of scratches others said the unit were like new.
I would jump on the 7hd if it had a custom rom. Its stuck at android 4.2.2.
I wonder with my credit card will it extend the warranty :/
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if I recall it didnt work with Netflix but not sure. It only has 16GB so tehre is not much space to save anything. I must of saved youtube videos in low quality to watch on flights because I dont recall how I saved hours of stuff to watch. But I do remember the form factor was really nice on flights instead of pulling out laptop.

I do recall Google maps only worked with really old version.

Whatever you do, just think it as an Old android with nice screen. There is no update or anything. Whatever you get to run when you receive it , is what you will have. Screen is really nice for sub $100 device. I don't think you will find anything comparable in sub $300 price category
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42energy wrote:
Sep 9th, 2017 1:28 am
if I recall it didnt work with Netflix but not sure. It only has 16GB so tehre is not much space to save anything. I must of saved youtube videos in low quality to watch on flights because I dont recall how I saved hours of stuff to watch. But I do remember the form factor was really nice on flights instead of pulling out laptop.

I do recall Google maps only worked with really old version.

Whatever you do, just think it as an Old android with nice screen. There is no update or anything. Whatever you get to run when you receive it , is what you will have. Screen is really nice for sub $100 device. I don't think you will find anything comparable in sub $300 price category. For me though, I kinda need the Windows platform so I may still need to carry a $300 windows device alongside with this if I'm away for more than a day or two.
I'm just running an android farm for beer money this is giving me profit :p anything under 30$
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cats_on_burners wrote:
Sep 9th, 2017 1:35 am
The Kobo Arc 10hd does have CM12.1.1 which work great imo.
All the files you need are here
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/fold ... lZkYWhIQlk

and some more info on the 10hd
https://github.com/tdro/android_device_ ... #downloads
I ran that but mine kept freezing at random and never figured out why. One theory was it was just my device. At the end of day I didn't have second identical unit to test it.

If I were to order one this time, I would just use it as 4.2.2 device.

I will drill this again but screen is really nicest thing for anything under $300. 2560x1600 and colors are decent. I'd say at least 100% sRGB
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42energy wrote:
Sep 9th, 2017 1:39 am
I ran that but mine kept freezing at random and never figured out why. One theory was it was just my device. At the end of day I didn't have second identical unit to test it.

If I were to order one this time, I would just use it as 4.2.2 device.

I will drill this again but screen is really nicest thing for anything under $300. That is huge attraction.
The custom rom is not fully stable. It does freeze until the last version. Still, the latest version is stable enough. Freeze are rare enough I don't consider it an issue.
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42energy wrote:
Sep 9th, 2017 1:39 am
I ran that but mine kept freezing at random and never figured out why. One theory was it was just my device. At the end of day I didn't have second identical unit to test it.

If I were to order one this time, I would just use it as 4.2.2 device.

I will drill this again but screen is really nicest thing for anything under $300. That is huge attraction.
You need to install the r8 kernel (from the same Google drive) as well.

Wifi seems to be draining the battery though...and there's no update for awhile now.
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cats_on_burners wrote:
Sep 9th, 2017 1:22 am
Im nervous about the quality of the refurbs.
Some people said they had lots of scratches others said the unit were like new.
I would jump on the 7hd if it had a custom rom. Its stuck at android 4.2.2.
"This Certified Refurbished product is tested and certified by the manufacturer or by a third-party refurbisher to look and work like new, with limited to no signs of wear. "
14 day return policy if you're not happy with it.
misterlamed wrote:
Sep 9th, 2017 1:28 am
I wonder with my credit card will it extend the warranty :/
I'm not aware of any credit cards that extend the warranty on refurbished items.

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