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Ebay not letting you buy/sell an Android Box...

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antigua1999 wrote: We both know the answer. I'm not sure why your beating this dead horse.
Spoken like a troll. No more oats for you. Sigh...
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bylo wrote: Spoken like a troll. No more oats for you. Sigh...
From the expert troll. lol
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antigua1999 wrote: The point is what I'm typing on is legal. If I choose to try and find PPV etc that is my choice to do something illegal. By buying an android box you are already saying you are going to do something illegal. Nobody spends money for an android box to watch free tv. lol
So watching another country's signal is illegal now? I got the android box and I use to watch TV channels from the old country, don't confuse the stupid policies of Rogers/Bell as law. The only ones that deem android boxes illegal are Rogers/Bell and their mafia protectors, the government.

Its illegal for me to watch U.S. tv channels but its not illegal for the government to squeeze the sh*t out of people in casinos, making some of them lose their homes and even committing suicide in casino washrooms.
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I absolutely hate eBay, switch over to aliexpress.

They are absolutely ridiculous.
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wizztex wrote: I absolutely hate eBay, switch over to aliexpress.
Not exactly comparing apples to apples from a seller's perspective, especially for auctions.
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wizztex wrote: I absolutely hate eBay, switch over to aliexpress.

They are absolutely ridiculous.
I wish I could find a Chinese market that uses SpeedPAK.

It's so quick relative to normal shipping.
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antigua1999 wrote: I surprised you are asking. Android boxes are used to receive service that costs money but you are getting it for free and not paying. I dont disagree with taking advantage of this loophole but questioning why you cant sell on ebay is silly.
The exact same reasoning applies to all Windows, Mac. and Linux boxes as well as Android phones. I know of nothing that's unique to an Android media player box.

So are we banning all computers and internet connections next?
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MusicBox wrote: So watching another country's signal is illegal now? I got the android box and I use to watch TV channels from the old country, don't confuse the stupid policies of Rogers/Bell as law. The only ones that deem android boxes illegal are Rogers/Bell and their mafia protectors, the government.

Its illegal for me to watch U.S. tv channels but its not illegal for the government to squeeze the sh*t out of people in casinos, making some of them lose their homes and even committing suicide in casino washrooms.
Geoblocking or the avoidance of it is a commercial policy matter, not a legal matter. It could get your account canceled, but you won't be in any legal trouble as long as you haven't employed a technical circumvention method to deliberately violate copyright.

Authorities do not want to get involved in that one because it has implications for another area, the so-called "grey market". That's where an importer defies the manufacturer's policy to sell only via authorized dealers in a particular country. The position has always been that the agreement between the manufacturer and their authorized dealers in different countries is a commercial matter. They can sue each other for contract violation, but there's nothing wrong with you buying something from the U.S., for example, and importing it to Canada because you don't want to pay the Canadian authorized dealer's price. The manufacturer may not like it, and the U.S. dealer who sold it to you might be in contract trouble with the manufacturer, but that's not your problem.
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MusicBox wrote: So watching another country's signal is illegal now? I got the android box and I use to watch TV channels from the old country, don't confuse the stupid policies of Rogers/Bell as law. The only ones that deem android boxes illegal are Rogers/Bell and their mafia protectors, the government.

Its illegal for me to watch U.S. tv channels but its not illegal for the government to squeeze the sh*t out of people in casinos, making some of them lose their homes and even committing suicide in casino washrooms.
Not sure if I didn't hit post earlier but I'm going to respond to this a second time I guess

First off, we get US channels here but with Canadian commercials no?

Second, how in the hell can you compare this to the legality of casinos? That makes 0 sense. For those people that gamble away their entire savings and lose everything they have are obviously those with a gambling problem. Casino's do actually have to abide by a crap ton of rules, ie, if I walk into the fallsview drunk off my ass (which I have), they're actually not supposed to allow me to gamble at all. Did I gamble? A little bit, but I'm not blowing over $200 either. So who's fault is it that I lost $200 mine or the casino's? Legally speaking, the casino's but really it's mine (obviously). That said, gambling is entertainment, that's why it's legal. For the problem gamblers the casino's should be seeing this and either talk to the person or have them removed for the sole reason of being so that they don't lose everything they have. (yes it is an actual rule, I'm not sure @ what $ amount it's supposed to be cut off at though).

For those that go to vegas and bet their home and cars, well those people are just dumbasses to begin with and deserve it.

Rogers and Bell, while most of us don't like them do have to pay to get the channels to you, some sort of licencing and probably more that I nor anyone here is aware of. These boxes were and ALWAYS were marketed as boxes to cut the cord like others have mentioned here. No one is buying an android box to view facebook and crap on their tv and everyone here knows that. It got to the point where even both of my parents (not together) were asking me about these boxes and getting everything for free because it was getting so out of hand, and trust me, as of 3 years ago my dad didn't even know how to turn a computer on. So that should probably be a bit of an eye opener on how many people had these boxes.
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mindabsence wrote: Not exactly comparing apples to apples from a seller's perspective, especially for auctions.
I have seen US stuff on aliexpress. Not just Chinese vendors with a US warehouse.

This mess made me wonder what I need to do to start selling on Ali.

The reason I posted this in shopping (as a seller) is because I've usually looked on Ebay first and overlook Ali. And this is pushing me to shop more on Ali first.

Aliexpress won't charge US buyers sales tax either. Ebay has started doing that. Ordered a thermometer from China to the US, and *Ebay* charged a state's 6% sales tax. There was no way around it, they charge it on any purchases to most states now.
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antigua1999 wrote: I surprised you are asking. Android boxes are used to receive service that costs money but you are getting it for free and not paying. I dont disagree with taking advantage of this loophole but questioning why you cant sell on ebay is silly.
my mother and sister don't have smart tv's and use android boxes for Netflix and Youtube........ and yes, they are subscribed to Netflix. as far as i know, as long as it's not a "loaded" android box it shouldn't be a problem.
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HammerRFDer wrote: So I called Ebay, and asked, exactly how did it violate the policy? I can't see why.

But once you remove the brand name, Ebay allows the listing. Weird, since the same brand name makes other junk.

Anyone have this experience? Who do you think is really behind this? The government? Or did Rogers/Bell/Telus say it's unlawful and Ebay just took their word for it without verifying with government?
Plenty of generic and branded android boxes are listed for sale on ebay.ca. What is your specific brand name? Heck people even list monthly IPTV subscriptions for sale there.
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peli33 wrote: Plenty of generic and branded android boxes are listed for sale on ebay.ca. What is your specific brand name? Heck people even list monthly IPTV subscriptions for sale there.
Xiaomi. It seems like there are no Xiaomi listings on ebay.ca, but only from international sellers.
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HammerRFDer wrote: Xiaomi. It seems like there are no Xiaomi listings on ebay.ca, but only from international sellers.
If it's a Mi Box then it's a legitimate media player, like the Fire Stick or NVIDIA Shield. Strange that they'd ban something like that.
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