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Edward Snowden is the NSA whistleblower

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Edward Snowden is the NSA whistleblower

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/ju ... rveillance

How do you guys feel about the fact that the US government has instant access to pretty much everything you do online? I personally am going to switch to a private email for anything personal.
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Hardly surprised that they were survailling everything they can get their hands on. If intelligence agencies had their way, they'd have taps on every single communication line and email address in the world. They will constantly push the limits, because as Mr. Snowden pointed out, each individual person working for these agencies does not have a good feeling of the full scope of the operations. The individual in this case only cares that his job is easier and he can achieve objectives.

It's interesting that the US politicians and intelligence officials are already out and calling him a traitor and equal to Bradley Manning.
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It's the US government... What else is new...

I think this guy deserves an award... but sadly that won't happen... I think US citizens should decide what his outcome is... Not the same government who is hiding secret apocalyptic spying machines
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Just how powerful is this thing? For example, can they type in John Doe from some city, state and be able to pull out everything this Joe Doe has done for the past year?
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manixc wrote: Just how powerful is this thing? For example, can they type in John Doe from some city, state and be able to pull out everything this Joe Doe has done for the past year?
Yes, anything that leaves an electronic trace anyhow. Email contents, what you've searched for on the 'net, who you called and for how long you spoke to them, credit card purchases, sites visited, etc...

This guy should be given a freedom medal for disclosing what the wolves are doing behind our backs.
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ali123 wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/ju ... rveillance

How do you guys feel about the fact that the US government has instant access to pretty much everything you do online? I personally am going to switch to a private email for anything personal.
So you're saying that US govt has access to Canadians? Or Americans?

Did you read what you just wrote or ?
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ali123 wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/ju ... rveillance

How do you guys feel about the fact that the US government has instant access to pretty much everything you do online? I personally am going to switch to a private email for anything personal.
Personally I don't really care. Do you hold the secret documents to Iran's nuclear warhead blueprints? No. Then those pictures of that time you went to Cuba with your girlfriend or your Air Miles card number key input is literally inconsequential to the world, and anything any of us do for that matter. Yeah, it's a gross violation of everyone's privacy, but seriously who cares.
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freeloader1969 wrote: Yes, anything that leaves an electronic trace anyhow. Email contents, what you've searched for on the 'net, who you called and for how long you spoke to them, credit card purchases, sites visited, etc...

This guy should be given a freedom medal for disclosing what the wolves are doing behind our backs.
How do you assign an IP or Anon email to a person?

If I email somebody from bob_sacamano@hotmail.com how does this get traced back to me?

Phone records, verified emails, CC purchases sure but I think the guts of this have gotten a little bit out of control
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transitguy1 wrote: So you're saying that US govt has access to Canadians? Or Americans?

Did you read what you just wrote or ?
How much of your internet traffic is routed through American networks? How many services like google do you access that are hosted on American servers? Shopping? eCommerce? Even big name Canadian companies sub-contract out things to US IT companies from eCommerce platforms to databasing.
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feelinsupersonic wrote: Personally I don't really care. Do you hold the secret documents to Iran's nuclear warhead blueprints? No. Then those pictures of that time you went to Cuba with your girlfriend or your Air Miles card number key input is literally inconsequential to the world, and anything any of us do for that matter. Yeah, it's a gross violation of everyone's privacy, but seriously who cares.
The problem is, if you watch Snowden's interview, is not that you actively are doing anything wrong. I personally flip flop about "privacy" if you have nothing to hide. It's that the way the NSA and CIA work, if they find a small piece of interesting or incriminating evidence today, they will retroactively look back in their database for years to find something else. Both events on their own may or may not be entirely inconsequential or even meaningless together. But, there is a real possibility that some one who was a run-of-the-mill lefty, communist, socialist student who writes some political article while in university. They are years later recorded in an email/phone conversation talking casually about the positive aspects of communism after a recent trip to China. NSA links both statements, and you're now under suspicion of espionage. Employment security clearances, flying, border travel... They all now become difficult, for your lifetime, for no reason you're aware of (that's if you have absolutely nothing to hide).

Again, I'm not necessarily for or against surveillance, but this scenario is far from unlikely. To indefinitely hold on to private communication and data (obtained with little oversight) is very very questionable.
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Why are people concerned about emails not being private? Emails by default is not a secured means of communication. Anybody (not just the government) could be snooping in on your emails.

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