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Edward Snowden is the NSA whistleblower

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The U.S harbours in the name of human rights, many Chinese fugitives charged by the Chinese government for various crimes including passing military secrets, treason and subverting state power. The U.S is quite the hypocrite.
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Aznsilvrboy wrote: The U.S harbours in the name of human rights, many Chinese fugitives charged by the Chinese government for various crimes including passing military secrets, treason and subverting state power. The U.S is quite the hypocrite.
Th US was always a hypocrite.
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Poor Snowden, he thew his life away probably expecting some sort of national LA Riots tier reaction. But people don't care, as long as they get their daily diet of fast food and celebrity gossip.
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Swswswish wrote: Poor Snowden, he thew his life away probably expecting some sort of national LA Riots tier reaction. But people don't care, as long as they get their daily diet of fast food and celebrity gossip.
i think he'll get one. maybe not from the us.but this could make the us lose a lot of allies. public interest in plain sight is the scariest thing.
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feelinsupersonic wrote: Personally I don't really care. Do you hold the secret documents to Iran's nuclear warhead blueprints? No. Then those pictures of that time you went to Cuba with your girlfriend or your Air Miles card number key input is literally inconsequential to the world, and anything any of us do for that matter. Yeah, it's a gross violation of everyone's privacy, but seriously who cares.
Please think about the bigger picture and the limitless power that kind of information brings… this is EVERY digital transaction you’ve ever made in your life; e-mails, purchases, every text message, phone call, online forum post, etc etc.
You probably won’t care until very specific instances of your past is brought up, scrutinized and put under a microscope. Who’s to say that didn’t already happen without your consent and/or knowledge? This is the issue with mass surveillance…

Let’s have a hypothetical thought experiment:

On a date; you're asked right off the bat:
=> You went for an STD test last week, what was that about? (Might even be a rhetorical question if they already know the result - or they could just not ask and cancel the date altogether).
=> Why did you stop going to your AA meetings?
=> Why are you seeking an relationship outside your marriage? You’re still scheduled for an marriage counselling session next week with your wife?
=> Why did you watch < use your imagination> porn on www. "Imagination" .com?
=> Why did your children's DNA testing from FamilyTreeDNA come back as a half match - only to your wife?

Feeling uncomfortable yet? I think you get the idea...
Imagine the implications of this kind of information can/will have on your career advancement?

Then there’s the issue that the narrative around a 10KB log of your browsing history could be manipulated to make you look really, really bad…

I am not paranoid, but the saying "An innocent man has nothing to fear" is an extremely naive way of thinking in today’s context…
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Nothing to see here. It is not the Russians or Chinese, so it is all good. /S
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maple1 wrote: Nothing to see here. It is not the Russians or Chinese, so it is all good. /S
Your browsing history indicates otherwise... :( *Dramatic.mp3*
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iEyeCaptain wrote: I'll start being outraged when a completely innocent citizen is being persecuted for something he said on the phone to friend.

Until then, much ado about nothing.
That is not how it works.

Governments can secretly extort citizens and their loved ones.

If they can profile you, they can do all sorts of stuff. Now think about what happens when all of us are being tracked.

Have you ever had your phone in the same room as you when you are changing? They can record you even if your phone is off.

You have curtains in your house? Do you close your bathroom door? If you do any of these that means you care about your privacy. You just need to understand how important digital privacy is today and for the future.
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Everyone should read his book Permanent Record he released last year.
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kevindurant1 wrote:

Have you ever had your phone in the same room as you when you are changing? They can record you even if your phone is off.

Are you saying that a phone can be used to record something when the power is turned off? I call total BS. The laws of physics say so.
That's just not how it works. If a very special app was on the phone, then it's possible it could be done by spoofing a power down. But otherwise, not a chance.
Even if a spy app is present, if you're worried then pop the battery out. Except for the stupid iPhones though.
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king_george wrote: Are you saying that a phone can be used to record something when the power is turned off? I call total BS. The laws of physics say so.
That's just not how it works. If a very special app was on the phone, then it's possible it could be done by spoofing a power down. But otherwise, not a chance.
Even if a spy app is present, if you're worried then pop the battery out. Except for the stupid iPhones though.
Yeah. That has been known for a long time. It was leaked by Snowden.

Phones(smart phones) have a hardware/software backdoor.

Routers, Laptops and anything that has a bluetooth/wifi.

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