Emotional-support animals Banned in cabins

uber_shnitz wrote: ↑ This is more a reflection on the system that surrounds "emotional support animals" (how those are defined and how they are regulated) than anything about the travel industry.

uber_shnitz wrote: ↑ This is more a reflection on the system that surrounds "emotional support animals" (how those are defined and how they are regulated) than anything about the travel industry.

l69norm wrote: ↑ I have a friend who is associated with DogGuides, an organization that trains service dogs and then places it with a disabled person for free.
https://dogguides.com/about.html

The whole fake service animal thing is a huge disrespect to real service dogs.

It takes two years formal training for the dog and costs about $25K to place one dog with a new owner. The two years doesn't include the volunteer time/ costs to raise a future guide dog to the point where it can be screened to see if it can even be accepted into the formal training program

gr8dlr wrote: ↑ The problem is ppl abuse the system and make claims and in this day and age of social media, it's easy to manipulate the true "reality" and so the "pendulum" gets swung unfortunately sometimes the swing is too far the other way.
A support dog is not necessarily the same as a "service" dog like someone who is sight impaired....is it? Can the person who has the support animal cope with the several hours of travel without the support?

l69norm wrote: ↑ https://cnib.ca/en/programs-and-service ... region=gta

Service, therapy and emotional support animals

There is still much confusion surrounding the differences between guide dogs, service dogs, therapy dogs and emotional support animals – particularly about the rights and legislation that protect them. Service dogs are specifically trained to assist a person with a disability and perform specific tasks that mitigate the disability. Both guide dogs and service dogs are protected under human rights legislation across Canada.

Therapy dogs receive some training to provide psychological or physiological comfort to people in different situations. Emotional support animals receive no specific training and are companion animals that provide comfort to people. Therapy dogs and emotional support animals do not have access rights and require permission to enter restaurants, hotels, taxis and other businesses


https://dogguides.com/programs.html
Canine Vision - for people who are blind or visually impaired
Hearing - for people who are deaf or hard of hearing
Autism Assistance - for children who have autism spectrum disorder
Service - for people who have a physical or medical disability
Seizure Response - for people who have epilepsy
Diabetic Alert - for people who have diabetes with hypoglycemic unawareness
Facility Support - for professional agencies assisting individuals in traumatic situations

gr8dlr wrote: ↑ Unfortunately there are ppl who show up at the Airport and expect to board the plane with their dog. They would claim that they need the dog and then put up a fuss. Therein lies the problem

l69norm wrote: ↑ I think only BC has formal laws around this
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/just ... ervice-dog

It's too easy to buy informal ID off the internet for a mere $199
https://www.servicedogscanada.org/

google say there was an attempt to create a Canada wide standard in 2017 , but it got panned pretty badly at the comment stage

l69norm wrote: ↑ I think only BC has formal laws around this
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/just ... ervice-dog

It's too easy to buy informal ID off the internet for a mere $199
https://www.servicedogscanada.org/

google say there was an attempt to create a Canada wide standard in 2017 , but it got panned pretty badly at the comment stage

GateGuardian wrote: ↑ In before the Karens show up complaining about how some people really need it.

Pete_Coach wrote: ↑ I agree. This is only airlines in the US and what can accompany you in the cabin. I hope it happens in Canada too but, I seriously doubt it will.
The "emotional support animal" thing has gone beyond reasonable in my opinion. It is not just in aircraft but on public transport and any public spaces, even grocery stores and before COVID, I saw a pig in a restaurant (not the human kind).

IceBlueShoes wrote: ↑ While I agree with what you're getting at, there are people that have a legit need.
Veterans for example have said many times that their emotional support animal is essentially their lifeline in letting them deal PTSD.

The issue is the lack of any real accreditation and it getting really out of control.
Dog? Sure, Cat, Sure I guess. Pig... a little odd but they are smarter than dogs. Not the craziest thing so long as it's not a 200+kg beast.
Peacock, kangaroo or alligator... WTF?!

IceBlueShoes wrote: ↑ While I agree with what you're getting at, there are people that have a legit need.
Veterans for example have said many times that their emotional support animal is essentially their lifeline in letting them deal PTSD.

The issue is the lack of any real accreditation and it getting really out of control.
Dog? Sure, Cat, Sure I guess. Pig... a little odd but they are smarter than dogs. Not the craziest thing so long as it's not a 200+kg beast.
Peacock, kangaroo or alligator... WTF?!