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but you have to buy from epic, bad man.
yeahES_Revenge wrote: ↑ Isn't this like lowest price ever?
Can someone inform me why everyone hates on epic games as a platform? It’s not so hard to just close steam and open epic right?
Because it’s a slippery slope. Right now we have Epic, Origin, Steam and Blizzard. The more we support this the more that will be created. 1 platform is ideal and that is Steam.
But more competition amongst the suppliers will only produce better results for the consumers (us), no? Again, even if we had all these launchers, what’s the harm of opening up steam for one game, then blizzard for the next? 2 clicks away. Whereas for consoles and their specific games, which already exist... it’s a matter of purchasing the console, setting it up, changing inputs/controllers etc.slayerwulf wrote: ↑ Because it’s a slippery slope. Right now we have Epic, Origin, Steam and Blizzard. The more we support this the more that will be created. 1 platform is ideal and that is Steam.
This isn't people's problems with Epic. A monopoly is never a good thing. Steam's cut was too large and I'm glad Epic is giving publishers a larger cut of the game THEY MADE. Especially good for smaller publishers. I don't have a problem with Epic as an additional large PC gaming store will be good in the long term, IMO, and we can already see it with these Epic coupons and sales. Witcher 3 has never been close to $7 on PC and Borderlands 3 has never been close to this.slayerwulf wrote: ↑ Because it’s a slippery slope. Right now we have Epic, Origin, Steam and Blizzard. The more we support this the more that will be created. 1 platform is ideal and that is Steam.
How do you think they can afford the 12% cut to Game Devs? Fortnite money which we all know is not going to last forever. Epic themselves know this well, hence the brute forcing into the market with paid exclusives.ClarkZuckerberg wrote: ↑ This isn't people's problems with Epic. A monopoly is never a good thing. Steam's cut was too large and I'm glad Epic is giving publishers a larger cut of the game THEY MADE. Especially good for smaller publishers. I don't have a problem with Epic as an additional large PC gaming store will be good in the long term, IMO, and we can already see it with these Epic coupons and sales. Witcher 3 has never been close to $7 on PC and Borderlands 3 has never been close to this.
The main problem I see people have is paying publishers to make games exclusive to the Epic Store. Personally I have no loyalty to Steam and though I prefer it as a platform, I'm not so diehard that I won't buy a game from Epic.
They can afford the cut, because it's not their sole source of revenue. It IS Steam's. Steam's cut is ridiculous when you consider how much it actually costs Steam to host a few dozen GB of games files (yes multiplied by each different server but still peanuts in the grand scheme of server space). You're acting like $1.8B isn't still a lot of money, and Fortnite is still huge, likely as big as it was last year if not bigger with the new map change late last year. They're diversifying with the EGS, with an aggressive play into P, and it seems to be working. They've gained a strong foothold on PC, despite the toxicity online about the EGS. They've already given fantastic sales with some of the lowest prices on some games, ever. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't pay as much as you think for GTA. Rockstar makes a killing from GTA Online and they know if people get the game free they will likely spend money on GTA Online. It was a win-win for Rockstar.goldxpert wrote: ↑ How do you think they can afford the 12% cut to Game Devs? Fortnite money which we all know is not going to last forever. Epic themselves know this well, hence the brute forcing into the market with paid exclusives.
They already saw a drop of $600 million in revenue from that game ($2.4 billion to $1.8 billion from 2018 to 2019) and, as more online games pick up steam, revenues from fortnite will cap off and won't be enough to give to out free games the caliber of GTA and offer $10 off coupons on a $15 purchase during a sale.
It's good for consumers in the near term, but as with any monopoly, if EGS becomes too big, we will all stop seeing these ridiculous discounts. Just like steam has garbage discounts now since they are defacto PC platform as compared to 4 years ago.
Seems contradictory no? They give the publisher a larger cut but sell the game for cheaper. Seems like false altruism to me.ClarkZuckerberg wrote: ↑ This isn't people's problems with Epic. A monopoly is never a good thing. Steam's cut was too large and I'm glad Epic is giving publishers a larger cut of the game THEY MADE. Especially good for smaller publishers. I don't have a problem with Epic as an additional large PC gaming store will be good in the long term, IMO, and we can already see it with these Epic coupons and sales. Witcher 3 has never been close to $7 on PC and Borderlands 3 has never been close to this.
The main problem I see people have is paying publishers to make games exclusive to the Epic Store. Personally I have no loyalty to Steam and though I prefer it as a platform, I'm not so diehard that I won't buy a game from Epic.
Why can't they give the developers a fair cut while still making money? It's clearly a business decision but it doesn't mean both parties involved can't be happy with it. EGS is trying to become the go-to store for publishers, as this means they get more eyeballs on their own games (which can only be installed via the Epic launcher which holds the EGS), and more people interested in Unreal Engine. I don't think they claimed to be altruistic.slayerwulf wrote: ↑ Seems contradictory no? They give the publisher a larger cut but sell the game for cheaper. Seems like false altruism to me.
I am not saying the Epic platform is bad just someone asked why everyone has a hate on if it is not Steam and I answered with my opinion.ClarkZuckerberg wrote: ↑ Why can't they give the developers a fair cut while still making money? It's clearly a business decision but it doesn't mean both parties involved can't be happy with it. EGS is trying to become the go-to store for publishers, as this means they get more eyeballs on their own games (which can only be installed via the Epic launcher which holds the EGS), and more people interested in Unreal Engine. I don't think they claimed to be altruistic.
I forgot to mention in my last comment about Unreal Engine. They want their engine to be used by everyone and this makes a great combo with their store as well. Fortnite isn't their only source of revenue outside of EGS. Unreal Engine is huge and is only going to get bigger now that it's becoming a bigger name in the film industry (see The Mandalorian).
