EVSE Installation (Detached Garage)

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Feb 9th, 2018 3:05 pm

solo_l16 [OP]: Newbie; Jul 20, 2004; 8 posts

Feb 9th, 2018 3:05 pm

EVSE Installation (Detached Garage)

Hi everyone,

Was wondering if I could get some input//opinion on my situation. So I recently took delivery of the E-Golf. I want to install a lvl2 charging station in my garage. However my garage is detached and is about 10 feet from my house. I've been reaching out to some electricians to get quotes but they are coming back with $1500-2000. Just because they will have to dig a trench etc. It only gets worst cause my backyard is interlocked too. So I definitely don't want to dig it all up.

So I was wondering if anyone here has had experience with this situation. I'm thinking about doing this install myself and forgoing the Ontario 50% (up to $500) rebate on the installation. I saw another thread that seems to be split on the 50% rebate for the charging device. Wonder if I will be able to claim that rebate even tho I did the installation myself.

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Feb 9th, 2018 3:09 pm

Azer: Sr. Member; May 25, 2005; 723 posts; 324 upvotes

Feb 9th, 2018 3:09 pm

Yes you will be able to claim the rebate for the charger if you install it yourself.

Feb 9th, 2018 3:22 pm

Bevatron: Deal Fanatic; Jan 8, 2009; 5548 posts; 4013 upvotes; Ontario

Feb 9th, 2018 3:22 pm

Why don't you install a 1" grey pvc conduit/raceway between the two locations yourself and thread a line through for the electrician to pull the cable. You would need to dig a pit adjacent to the garage and make a hole in your basement wall. You could then buy a 10 foot length of PVC conduit and keep ramming through the wall until you reach the pit. Hole in wall would need to be well sealed around conduit. You will need to make a spiked end out of wood or something unless your soil is soft. If you need to trench then Interlocked pavers can be lifted and relaid though if you take them from the middle of a run you may have trouble getting the last ones back in. I have used the burrowing technique a few times over runs that distance. Easier to make a pit outside the garage wall than inside then run conduit above ground into garage. Going through the basement wall will enable you to bore with the whole 10 ft length of conduit. The electrician will have to do the same work you do and would rather be wiring than digging. Depth requirements etc are specified in the following document:

www.rds.oeb.ca/HPECMWebDrawer/Record/47 ... e/document

Feb 9th, 2018 3:52 pm

solo_l16 [OP]: Newbie; Jul 20, 2004; 8 posts

Feb 9th, 2018 3:52 pm

Azer wrote: ↑ Yes you will be able to claim the rebate for the charger if you install it yourself.

oh so I don't need ESA approval? I can just buy the charger and get 50% rebate for it?

The wording on the MTO website made it sound like you had to :

Expenses eligible for a rebate include:

the purchase price of the charging station
the costs associated with installing the unit by a Licensed Electrical Contractor
To find a Licensed Electrical Contractor in your area, please visit the Electrical Safety Authority (ESA)'s website
the cost associated with an electrical inspection undertaken by ESA

You will need to provide proof of installation by showing your certificate of inspection issued by the ESA. The certificate can be obtained from the electrical contractor who installed the charging station or from the ESA if the installation was completed by an employee or a homeowner.

Feb 9th, 2018 3:54 pm

solo_l16 [OP]: Newbie; Jul 20, 2004; 8 posts

Feb 9th, 2018 3:54 pm

Martin (deal addict) wrote: ↑ Why don't you install a 1" grey pvc conduit/raceway between the two locations yourself and thread a line through for the electrician to pull the cable. You would need to dig a pit adjacent to the garage and make a hole in your basement wall. You could then buy a 10 foot length of PVC conduit and keep ramming through the wall until you reach the pit. Hole in wall would need to be well sealed around conduit. You will need to make a spiked end out of wood or something unless your soil is soft. If you need to trench then Interlocked pavers can be lifted and relaid though if you take them from the middle of a run you may have trouble getting the last ones back in. I have used the burrowing technique a few times over runs that distance. Easier to make a pit outside the garage wall than inside then run conduit above ground into garage. Going through the basement wall will enable you to bore with the whole 10 ft length of conduit. The electrician will have to do the same work you do and would rather be wiring than digging. Depth requirements etc are specified in the following document:

www.rds.oeb.ca/HPECMWebDrawer/Record/47 ... e/document

I was thinking the same thing. I guess they would still ask if I've dug the required 17inch depth.

Feb 9th, 2018 4:04 pm

Bevatron: Deal Fanatic; Jan 8, 2009; 5548 posts; 4013 upvotes; Ontario

Feb 9th, 2018 4:04 pm

You should be able to get the depth easier by the boring method. The pit at the garage can be left open to show the inspector the depth. Ground may be frozen beyond 17 in this time of year.

Feb 10th, 2018 5:08 pm

mr_raider: Deal Expert; Feb 29, 2008; 29861 posts; 5373 upvotes; Montreal

Feb 10th, 2018 5:08 pm

DOn't let the electrician do the digging. I had the same issue running a plug to the back of my yard. If it's just grass you can cut the lawn and use tools like the irrigation guys do. If it's stones you will have to lift a few. Even a gardener/landscaper can do it.

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