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Fines/Tickets. Why aren't they set high, say a minimum of $1k to deter

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Fines/Tickets. Why aren't they set high, say a minimum of $1k to deter

From drivers not doing what they're supposed to say like clearing snow off their vehicle, texting, etc.

I saw this commercial about driving high and the fine is only $180?!?!

It seems to me if they do not many will break the law hence less funding.
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Move to Auto.
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Take the Street Racing they passed.

My maximum now is 149. LOL
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If they make the fine too high then many people will be unable to pay it.
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ConsoleWatcher wrote: If they make the fine too high then many people will be unable to pay it.
isnt not being able to pay it a good deterrent for drivers? focus is not to cough up money but for the fine to be something that keeps drivers away from misbehaving deliberately.
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They could always go the Scandinavian route... Fines based on income.

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amitdi wrote: isnt not being able to pay it a good deterrent for drivers? focus is not to cough up money but for the fine to be something that keeps drivers away from misbehaving deliberately.
Speed. Get ticket. Unable to pay. License suspended. Drive anyway. Speed. Go to jail.

Speed. Get ticket. Pay it. Speed. Get ticket. Pay it. Speed. Get ticket. Pay it. Speed. Get ticket. Pay it. Licence suspended. Drive anyway. Speed. Go to jail.
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If they can't pay what then?
It's a fine balance between income for the government and deterring.
Absolute/extreme measures may break the camels back and a flow of revenue with it.
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It unfairly targets people with a lower income.
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MayorOfToronto wrote: Speed. Get ticket. Unable to pay. License suspended. Drive anyway. Speed. Go to jail.

Speed. Get ticket. Pay it. Speed. Get ticket. Pay it. Speed. Get ticket. Pay it. Speed. Get ticket. Pay it. Licence suspended. Drive anyway. Speed. Go to jail.
But dont you think there will be a difference in the size of the two pools. Numbers matter. You can never get speeding offenders to zero, its impossible.
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If it's too high, then people will try to fight it, then every ticket given out will end up being a court case. Then they'll get overwhelmed.
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You guys seem to think that the fines on the tickets are meant to stop the inevitable.

It's all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

The government knows people will speed, jaywalk, urinate on a tree in the park, and a million other things that they cannot control. So they might as well make money on it and (in an ideal world) use it to give back to the communities they got it from.
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bembol wrote: From drivers not doing what they're supposed to say like clearing snow off their vehicle, texting, etc.

I saw this commercial about driving high and the fine is only $180?!?!

It seems to me if they do not many will break the law hence less funding.
By setting the fines artificially low you are maximizing revenue. If a fine is perceived as excessive (ie $1k) many people will challenge the fine solely on principle. This will clog the docket list within Provincial Offence Courts and in turn, cause the crown to abandon prosecuting many tickets. The most recent examples happened in 2015 - Globe and Mail 880k tickets dismissed - this was for $30 parking tickets. Imagine the backlog created once EVERYONE disputes a ticket.
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Okay. So I'm right it's all about making money and not about safety.

So what's their reason for not making winter tires mandatory?

I'll say it right now if I make $200k+, have a lawyer, etc. I wouldn't hesitate driving over 150km+ but because I only make $67k I can't afford it.

What does income have to do with fines. Simple. Don't break the law.
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