That's decently priced. Thanks!
I don't need another hobby lolGibsons wrote: ↑ If you are going to start IDPA or other shooting competition, it might be in your best interest to get into reloading. There is an upfront cost, but if you are going to buy factory ammo and shoot it by the caseload, your pocket will be pretty angry. High volume shooters usually start reloading to save money.
I realize the prices fluctuate greatly, maybe a current reloader can attest to the savings.
I think the best way to say this is that If time is worth that much to you, then reloading is not for you. Even for precision, i bet there are very few folks that can pump out consistent match grade ammo like hornady. The folks that do this have the same mindset of making sauce from scratch. The folks i know who reload treat it almost like meditation; throw on some music or a podcast, or just hide from the wife and kids for a few hours.realBIGmike wrote: ↑ I know this is a tricky Q but how much $$$ per /hour of work can you save by reloading ammo in these crazy covid price times? To simplify this question, let's not include obscure calibers, stick to 22LR, 9mm, 7.62x39mm, .308, 12ga please.
I understand there are benefits of customizing your ammo for precision or competition shooting but I am just trying to get an idea if reloading is worth it for a novice. Don't include the machine cost ( ~ $600), let's just assume it will hold it's value and focus on the $/hour. Since it is a hobby, forget the learning curve time spent also- just focusing on the basement/workshop labor time. I am trying to get a ballpark idea.
In 2014 USA, I found this, "there is typically a cost savings, but not if you want to pay yourself a minimum wage of $10.00 per hour."
^^^ Bingo!
You'd be surprised on how well people can reload. Also, those Hornady match grade boxes go for a pretty penny. Most likely any reloader (with practice) could get close to that level at half the price of buying it from the store. So it depends on your volume, if it's worth it to you.schmeerskahoven wrote: ↑ I think the best way to say this is that If time is worth that much to you, then reloading is not for you. Even for precision, i bet there are very few folks that can pump out consistent match grade ammo like hornady. The folks that do this have the same mindset of making sauce from scratch. The folks i know who reload treat it almost like meditation; throw on some music or a podcast, or just hide from the wife and kids for a few hours.
if you really want speed, there are semi automatic/fully automatic reloading setups that effectively turn you into a small ammo mfg lol. You dont save money getting into reloading, you just shoot more
IMO if you're not going to do it for more obscure calibers, for competitive precision rifle, or something more specific, the cost of reloading is close to break-even not counting your time. You can find deals on those ammo calibers you listed, and that makes the value proposition of reloading much less than if you were doing .300 Win, .338 Lapua or something less common - .32ACP as mentioned below.realBIGmike wrote: ↑ I know this is a tricky Q but how much $$$ per /hour of work can you save by reloading ammo in these crazy covid price times? To simplify this question, let's not include obscure calibers, stick to 22LR, 9mm, 7.62x39mm, .308, 12ga please.
I understand there are benefits of customizing your ammo for precision or competition shooting but I am just trying to get an idea if reloading is worth it for a novice. Don't include the machine cost ( ~ $600), let's just assume it will hold it's value and focus on the $/hour. Since it is a hobby, forget the learning curve time spent also- just focusing on the basement/workshop labor time. I am trying to get a ballpark idea.
In 2014 USA, I found this, "there is typically a cost savings, but not if you want to pay yourself a minimum wage of $10.00 per hour."
I'm pretty sure that's why my buddy reloads.schmeerskahoven wrote: ↑ The folks i know who reload treat it almost like meditation; throw on some music or a podcast, or just hide from the wife and kids for a few hours.
Dang it! You beat me to it. I'll do it anyway.derweissewolf wrote: ↑ ^^^ Bingo!
for a rough idea enter some numbersrealBIGmike wrote: ↑ I know this is a tricky Q but how much $$$ per /hour of work can you save by reloading ammo in these crazy covid price times? To simplify this question, let's not include obscure calibers, stick to 22LR, 9mm, 7.62x39mm, .308, 12ga please.
I understand there are benefits of customizing your ammo for precision or competition shooting but I am just trying to get an idea if reloading is worth it for a novice. Don't include the machine cost ( ~ $600), let's just assume it will hold it's value and focus on the $/hour. Since it is a hobby, forget the learning curve time spent also- just focusing on the basement/workshop labor time. I am trying to get a ballpark idea.
In 2014 USA, I found this, "there is typically a cost savings, but not if you want to pay yourself a minimum wage of $10.00 per hour."
340/1000rds seems to be the going good rate for S&B 124gr 9mmCrimeMasterGoGo wrote: ↑ Is this a good deal on 9mm ammo?
https://alflahertys.com/sellier-bellot- ... ab-reviews
If not, what should be the ideal price to look for?
Tenda has “free shipping” over $300. Just be aware that recently revised shipping qualifications mean many places that used to get free shipping are now charged an additional “remote” shipping charge. Canpar doesn’t ship anything firearm related anymore, so ammo is UPS only. I used to be free shipping, the new remote charge added about $8 to a case of 9mm. But I’m not really remote, other people have reported much higher add on shipping costs. You won’t know the additional cost until about a week or more when Tenda emails you and asks if you will approve the additional charge or cancel the order.realBIGmike wrote: ↑ https://www.gotenda.com/product/cci-bla ... e-of-1000/
Tenda has CCI Blazer 9mm Ammunition 115 Grains FMJ Case Of 1000 $309.99
In stock, Limit of 2. I think you can get free shipping over $350? Looks non-reloadable.
And here is a cheap gun if you need something to shoot that ammo:
https://www.gotenda.com/product/tara-tm ... istol-9mm/
$279.99
In stock
If you have 2k$ to burn, these look like a blast:
https://www.gotenda.com/product/dp-12-d ... -12ga-odg/
Specifications and Features:
* 12 Gauge
* Two 18 7/8″ barrels
* 16 Round capacity, 14 rounds in the magazines and two rounds in the chamber
This must be new, haven't experienced that before. Just saw that Canpar dumped anything Firearm related. Were they the bright ones that left a shotgun on the wrong porch?Bartred wrote: ↑ Tenda has “free shipping” over $300. Just be aware that recently revised shipping qualifications mean many places that used to get free shipping are now charged an additional “remote” shipping charge. Canpar doesn’t ship anything firearm related anymore, so ammo is UPS only. I used to be free shipping, the new remote charge added about $8 to a case of 9mm. But I’m not really remote, other people have reported much higher add on shipping costs. You won’t know the additional cost until about a week or more when Tenda emails you and asks if you will approve the additional charge or cancel the order.
Canada Post is also more expensive now for long guns which triggers additional Tenda charges. A 10/22 that had free shipping got an extra oversized $17 shipping charge tacked on.
Just a buyer be aware type thing, Tenda has extra shipping costs now and they get passed on to the consumer. So when you’re expecting an “order shipped” email in 7-10 days, it’s actually a “approve extra charge” email. Then you wait another few days for processing before it’s actually shipped.
Thanks. That's a good price. I don't reload anyway.realBIGmike wrote: ↑ https://www.gotenda.com/product/cci-bla ... e-of-1000/
Tenda has CCI Blazer 9mm Ammunition 115 Grains FMJ Case Of 1000 $309.99
In stock, Limit of 2. I think you can get free shipping over $350? Looks non-reloadable.
Looks like NFA is working to restore canpar service.Gibsons wrote: ↑ This must be new, haven't experienced that before. Just saw that Canpar dumped anything Firearm related. Were they the bright ones that left a shotgun on the wrong porch?
Times are changing and CP cranked up their rates this January, pretty significantly. Retailers will most likely just not offer "Free Shipping" anymore as it's not really "Free" if there are fees attached to it.
This is one of the reasons why I hated Cabelas, they give you a "Free Shipping" code then if you buy a rifle, there is an Oversize fee + they force you to buy a lock and such. Looks like this might be the norm for the little guys after they adjust.
Oh well, that's inflation. Everything is going up nowadays, my Neighbour was going to build a fence - until he found out the new cost. Looks like no fence this year
