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Bartred wrote: https://northprosports.com/index.php?ro ... t_id=15588

Little better @ $720 if you’re lookin’
Anyone know if these "reliability" issues have a fix or have been fixed?
A lot of reviews say they have feeding and just overall reliability issues.

I want one, and for $720 doesn't seem too bad. I already have a Hi-Point in 9mm.
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BDSL wrote: I have shot those Norinco's as well....and tried some of the cheaper pistols. Horrible trigger. Horrible sight. FTE/Stovepipe every few rounds.
I have not tried Tokarev and probably will not bother. There are just too many crappy firearms. That seems to be the trend with cheaper firearms.
Exact same experience last time I was at a range. Friend, who is far more firearm experienced than myself, brought his 'new' Tokarev along. We could not get through a full magazine without a stovepipe. I still haven't gotten a restricted firearm yet and I was thinking something cheap like this Tokarev but it'll be a police surplus Beretta 92 after trying a bunch of cheap Soviet bloc guns.
If it’s not at least 50% off is it really a deal?
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DjRags604 wrote: Exact same experience last time I was at a range. Friend, who is far more firearm experienced than myself, brought his 'new' Tokarev along. We could not get through a full magazine without a stovepipe. I still haven't gotten a restricted firearm yet and I was thinking something cheap like this Tokarev but it'll be a police surplus Beretta 92 after trying a bunch of cheap Soviet bloc guns.
My Tokarev I bought, I stripped/cleaned/Lubed it up big time, it shot reliably. The trigger was terrible, spongy and the sights were awful, bad ergonomics was an understatement. Old sights and ergonomics will bother some people.

I had a LE trade-in Beretta 92FS which shot 100% reliably and was accurate (lots of cosmetic wear but not many rounds through). The 3 dot sights wore off and were barely visible, I got out the nail polish... 92FS parts are easy to come by from Brownell's, etc. I really don't know if these are on the market anymore.


Ended up getting rid of it but it was a good gun. I wouldn't buy the early Beretta 92S that have the heel release as you'll have an issue finding Magazines and the sights aren't as good as the newer models. I hear the newest 92's are pretty awesome but you need to open your wallet.

You really gamble on Surplus firearms but there can be some good deals or equally, some busts.
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Gibsons wrote: My Tokarev I bought, I stripped/cleaned/Lubed it up big time, it shot reliably. The trigger was terrible, spongy and the sights were awful, bad ergonomics was an understatement. Old sights and ergonomics will bother some people.

I had a LE trade-in Beretta 92FS which shot 100% reliably and was accurate (lots of cosmetic wear but not many rounds through). The 3 dot sights wore off and were barely visible, I got out the nail polish... 92FS parts are easy to come by from Brownell's, etc. I really don't know if these are on the market anymore.


Ended up getting rid of it but it was a good gun. I wouldn't buy the early Beretta 92S that have the heel release as you'll have an issue finding Magazines and the sights aren't as good as the newer models. I hear the newest 92's are pretty awesome but you need to open your wallet.

You really gamble on Surplus firearms but there can be some good deals or equally, some busts.

Can't say I've seen 92FS surplus. I will definitely be on the lookout as I've always wanted a 92FS over the old model but could only find new marked close to $1k.
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DjRags604 wrote: Can't say I've seen 92FS surplus. I will definitely be on the lookout as I've always wanted a 92FS over the old model but could only find new marked close to $1k.
$650 for Used 92FS, shooter quality.
$899 for Brand New 92FS

https://leverarms.com/shop/guns/handgun ... ly-r10670/

https://www.firearmsoutletcanada.com/be ... f300-.html

Prices go up and firearms hold their value. 50% off isn't realistic with Firearms.
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Another option for a used (like new) Beretta 92FS DA/SA $795: https://www.reliablegun.com/en/used-ber ... e-new-cond
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Thanks, TRS-25 OOS, Impulse still in stock
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I'm looking for a set of 45 degree offset iron sights. It's for a $250 22LR plinker, so it doesn't make sense to spend $250 on a set of Magpul.

What would you guys recommend?

Thanks
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devil2k wrote: I'm looking for a set of 45 degree offset iron sights. It's for a $250 22LR plinker, so it doesn't make sense to spend $250 on a set of Magpul.

What would you guys recommend?

Thanks
I put these on my son’s GSG16 when I gave it to him for his 18th birthday…they do the job for $33

Feyachi 45 Degree Offset Iron Sights Flip Up BUIS Rapid Transition Backup Front and Rear Iron Sight Set Picatinny Weaver Rails https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07XZ493YX/ref ... UTF8&psc=1
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Eckz wrote: Anyone know if these "reliability" issues have a fix or have been fixed?
A lot of reviews say they have feeding and just overall reliability issues.

I want one, and for $720 doesn't seem too bad. I already have a Hi-Point in 9mm.
Not sure if it applies to the NSR model but on the regular M1-9 the bolt seems to have been slightly modified a few years ago to remove the hold-open feature and that helped with the feed issues.
This is why older reviews are generaly negative and newer ones are better.
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Al Flaherty's and Tenda both have the GSG 16 at $449 + 5% tax and free shipping. Fun little plinker that has a few cool mods available.

https://alflahertys.com/gsg-gsg-16-rimf ... g15-black/

Flaherty's has always been a solid retailer for me whereas Tenda can be hit and miss.

**They are $449 not $499 like my first post....apologies**
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Bartred wrote: I put these on my son’s GSG16 when I gave it to him for his 18th birthday…they do the job for $33

Feyachi 45 Degree Offset Iron Sights Flip Up BUIS Rapid Transition Backup Front and Rear Iron Sight Set Picatinny Weaver Rails https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07XZ493YX/ref ... UTF8&psc=1
Thanks. There are reviews saying that there are lots of movement though. Does yours hold zero?
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devil2k wrote: Thanks. There are reviews saying that there are lots of movement though. Does yours hold zero?
My son has never complained about that and it was solid when I mounted it. Regardless, it’s Amazon…If you happen to get a bad set it’s easy to return.

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