[Ford] 2021 Ford F-150 Lariat 502A - <$95/Week Lease

Tanooki wrote: ↑ Where did I ask for anyone to feel sorry for us? Obviously it's everyone's right to shop around for the best deal for them. But if you keep expecting to drop the price your order will go to the back of the queue.

Where am I taking extra money from people when the vehicle has an MSRP and a customer feels the VALUE is there for him/her at that price? Do you go to a grocery store and expect them to give you cost on everything?

amkorp wrote: ↑ I think the bigger problem is that the car sales industry has set itself up for the incessant haggling and customer apprehension that's present in today's world.

I personally had an issue with Gallinger Ford where they charged me $500 deposit BEFORE I even got a chance to look at any numbers. I specifically asked the sales manager not to charge the card until he shows me some numbers but he went ahead and charged it anyways. Then when I got the BOS if had a $395 documentation fee (even though everything was digitally sent), a $300 nitrogen fee and a $105 wheel lock fee. When I asked about those fees and asked to have them removed they lied to me and told me it wasn't possible since the trucks come from factory with wheel locks and that the nitrogen and documents fee were mandatory.

So I went elsewhere and when I asked them to refund me the deposit they refused. Stating the truck was already ordered. Nothing was signed, financing was not done, but apparently the truck was ordered and on the way. That just leaves a really bad taste in customers mouths. Now they've not only lost a customer, I'm now posting this bad experience on probably the number one deals site in Canada. They won't see the impact right away, but keep it up and you lose more customers, then you have to become more scummy to make up for the loss, it just such a vicious cycle.

These charges are outrageous and must customers don't know this. They just go ahead and pay. But the ones who can negotiate can get thousands of dollars in fees and bullsh*t charges removed.

If you want to use the supermarket example there should be some sort of standardization in the industry but there just isn't. Even with omvic rules for all in pricing the majority of dealers will try to nickle and dime customer with obscene, fictitious fees.

If the supermarkets said "there is documentation fee of $20 for each transaction a customer made, for sure you'd get people arguing and haggling. What other industry do you know that charges $400 to provide the customer with an invoice and transaction details of a sale?

Standard operating procedure for many dealerships is: "every customer is a chump. So go forth and screw them over as hard as you can."

Lewiejames wrote: ↑There is no way a dealership is only making a few grand per sale, if they are not making 30-40% then this is a very dangerous business model.

tr0ck wrote: ↑ I just finalized with @Tanooki at Planet Ford. I went in and checked things out on-site and he was quite helpful and willing to work with my changing requirements. Just finished with the deposit today. I would recommend anyone considering this deal to reach out as it always helps to support one of our own. His contributions to this thread have been accurate and not sales BS as well.

vortex240 wrote: ↑16000 km/year - so you are buying an F150 for the occasional grocery trip? This post is nothing but a thinly veiled advertisement.

HandsomeDad wrote: ↑ They are definitely not making 30-40% per sale. That is a ridiculously high assumption.

vortex240 wrote: ↑ 16000 km/year - so you are buying an F150 for the occasional grocery trip? This post is nothing but a thinly veiled advertisement.

Lewiejames wrote: ↑ There is no way a dealership is only making a few grand per sale, if they are not making 30-40% then this is a very dangerous business model. They may only make a grand or two if they were to sell one or two per year. They have certain sales targets and once reach the amount rises, hence why in fall there are loads being sold because they have been pre bought to hit the final target and then they are making 10000+ per vehicle. Don’t be brain washed into thinking they are making a grand or two profit per vehicle.... if they are they should stop selling cars!

captainjay09 wrote: ↑ There is no way they are making a few grand per sale on this deal. 30-40% you really think that is possible lol

Lewiejames wrote: ↑ There is no way a dealership is only making a few grand per sale, if they are not making 30-40% then this is a very dangerous business model. They may only make a grand or two if they were to sell one or two per year. They have certain sales targets and once reach the amount rises, hence why in fall there are loads being sold because they have been pre bought to hit the final target and then they are making 10000+ per vehicle. Don’t be brain washed into thinking they are making a grand or two profit per vehicle.... if they are they should stop selling cars!