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Can anyone tell me if the latest firmware of the Sonicview 8000 HD supports upconverting SD material?

I'm buying a 58" Samsung Plasma this September and I'm worried how bad SD material will look.
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PCDawg wrote: Great info teb!!!

Im planning on getting an HD receiver, but held back since im afraid b3v might be using switching to their new stream and the receiver will be useless. Is there a timeline that bell will switch?

Would you recommend for people to wait a bit before spending $400 and get a cheaper receiver for now.
My question as well. Should I wait it out until after Nagra 3 to get an HD receiver?
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From what I've read N3 is already in existence in Europe and is already cracked. Took them a month to do it but I'm not sure if the N3 there vs N3 here that Bell/DN are going to switch to are the same. Now Bell is swapping cards slowly and will switch to N3 sometime in the fall. DN is going to start there card swapping later this year and seeing how they have a lot of more customers to deal with, it won't be till late next year before they finish and switch to N3 all together. This is what I've read and from someone telling me at work. Is it partially or all true? Take a grain of salt since I'm not trying to deceive anyone nor spread rumors. There are plenty of sites out there that deal with FTA that will have all the answers. The answers to Nagra 3 being cracked or not is yet to be seen. Bottom line is, don't invest in any major equipment upgrades until all this blows over.
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EH15 wrote: My question as well. Should I wait it out until after Nagra 3 to get an HD receiver?
Blakmajik made some good points in the post above. Here are some things to consider:

Is Nagra 3 hacked? Nagra 3 has been rumoured to have been cracked, but there are a lot of people who are very doubtful it has been cracked fully.

How long will it be down? No one knows how long Bev or DN will be down. I think on a previous card swap, it was down a total of 4 hours. On the flip side, Dire*tTV switched to cards about 4 years ago and it hasn't been cracked yet. It all depends.

When? It's rumoured that BEV is planning on switching to N3 this month, but as BlakMajik said, the Fall is a good estimate.

A word of advice and good quote that I got off one of the FTA forums: Don't invest more today than you are willing to lose tomorrow.

Personally, I'd wait for a few more months unless you're itching to get one. See if the reports of N3 being hacked are true once BEV switches to N3.
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Well put.

No one knows anything except the providers themselves.

Everything is in speculation from N3 being hacked to when Bell is going to turn it on.
Gophermofur wrote: Blakmajik made some good points in the post above. Here are some things to consider:

Is Nagra 3 hacked? Nagra 3 has been rumoured to have been cracked, but there are a lot of people who are very doubtful it has been cracked fully.

How long will it be down? No one knows how long Bev or DN will be down. I think on a previous card swap, it was down a total of 4 hours. On the flip side, Dire*tTV switched to cards about 4 years ago and it hasn't been cracked yet. It all depends.

When? It's rumoured that BEV is planning on switching to N3 this month, but as BlakMajik said, the Fall is a good estimate.

A word of advice and good quote that I got off one of the FTA forums: Don't invest more today than you are willing to lose tomorrow.

Personally, I'd wait for a few more months unless you're itching to get one. See if the reports of N3 being hacked are true once BEV switches to N3.
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Estimating that N3 will be turned on in the Fall seems awfully fast.

How long has Bell been mailing customers their new cards?
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on an FTA forum which I just looked up.

Feb 12 2008 they have been mailing out cards.

you should check out the fta forums listed and they have a 46 page thread on it
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Hi all,
I had an old pansat2500 that finally bit the dust couple months back. Ever since it did, I've never really looked for a new receiver so I'm not updated abot the scene but now I have some time. Can anyone recommend me a good receiver that is easy to use and update, I don't need HD and pvr would be nice. Hopefully I won't be spending more than $150, $200 max thanks for any inputs.
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Alcetic wrote: Hi all,
I had an old pansat2500 that finally bit the dust couple months back. Ever since it did, I've never really looked for a new receiver so I'm not updated abot the scene but now I have some time. Can anyone recommend me a good receiver that is easy to use and update, I don't need HD and pvr would be nice. Hopefully I won't be spending more than $150, $200 max thanks for any inputs.

Take a look at the SonicView 360. There are two models: Elite and (I forget the name of the other one).

The major difference between the two is that one of them (I think the Elite) ahs dual PVR, while the other one only has single PVR. They are getting popular.

If you want a more detailed response, you should post on an FTA website. They'll go nuts giving you suggestions.
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Here is the link to another thread about FTA receivers

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/show ... =satellite

And the other model referred to in the above post is the sonicview 360 premier


Alcetic wrote: Hi all,
I had an old pansat2500 that finally bit the dust couple months back. Ever since it did, I've never really looked for a new receiver so I'm not updated abot the scene but now I have some time. Can anyone recommend me a good receiver that is easy to use and update, I don't need HD and pvr would be nice. Hopefully I won't be spending more than $150, $200 max thanks for any inputs.
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FYI,

There is a new addition to the satellite that Dish Network has sent into orbit

It is also referred to as the Eastern Arc

Dishnetwork is offering only to new customers a dish that points to 61.5,72.7 and 77.

Basically 72.7 has majority of the channels on 110,119. all encrypted using N3 and are mpeg4 channels.

The dish that dish network sells is called dish 1000.4
Here is a link to some info about the dish http://www.dishdepot.com/dishes.jsp

And the west will use, 110,119,129

to check out the channels on 72.7 please visit this link
http://dishuser.org/72list.php
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Viewsat has just released a new HD receiver.

The difference with this unit , is there is no external output for a module and less an atsc tuner. There will be a module for this unit but is not available. it should be hitting stores very shortly

Viewsat MAXHD

http://www.viewsatusa.com/products_viewsatmaxhd.html
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Just a little update,

Bell has started making a move to the new N3 encryption on a few channels.

Here is a listing of the channels.
This information was pulled from an FTA forum, and I've seen many topics concerning N3.

180
300
320
430
431
432
781
782
804
806
807
815
816
817
818
819
825
860
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Hey, can you offer advise on installing a 30" dish? I bought one with a year or so ago but never got around to installing it. I have a motor for it too. I am installing it on a flat roof. I want to install it on a pole on to a concrete patio slab. I am not sure where to get a plumb pole to use though and how to aim it correctly. I read some instructions a while back but I forget where I found them now.

Any shortcuts or suggestion where I can get a pole for this kind of install? (GTA)


I already have a dish for FTA (charlie)
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teb wrote: Viewsat has just released a new HD receiver.

The difference with this unit , is there is no external output for a module and less an atsc tuner. There will be a module for this unit but is not available. it should be hitting stores very shortly

Viewsat MAXHD

http://www.viewsatusa.com/products_viewsatmaxhd.html
I heard the module for this would only cost like $7 - $10
plus the unit is cheaper then the 9000
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You are correct,

Right now it averages around $329 CDN
and the module is called the SK200 and it is cheaper, not sure how much though

You just have to pop out the old chip and put in the module.

This receiver has no fan and so far haven't read anything about heat issues like the first generation of the 9000.

on a fta site, their is a sponsor for $75 USD for the US, and $95 USD for Canada.

Still very early in the firmware, and still experience some issues, and picture quality isn't as good as the sonicview 8000 or viewsat 9000 from my readings.
BlazinTrini wrote: I heard the module for this would only cost like $7 - $10
plus the unit is cheaper then the 9000
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Hey, I haven't done a motorized setup myself. so I can't give you much pointers. I am curious on doing one, but most ppl which I do installs for have multiple tvs or don't want to pay extra for the motor.

here is the instruction set that you can follow

http://www.glorystar.tv/downloads/Insta ... _Motor.pdf

It seems pretty straight forward to me, when I read it, but its like totally different when you actually do it. I guess its like reading on how to drive, then actually driving.

Sorry
YLSF wrote: Hey, can you offer advise on installing a 30" dish? I bought one with a year or so ago but never got around to installing it. I have a motor for it too. I am installing it on a flat roof. I want to install it on a pole on to a concrete patio slab. I am not sure where to get a plumb pole to use though and how to aim it correctly. I read some instructions a while back but I forget where I found them now.

Any shortcuts or suggestion where I can get a pole for this kind of install? (GTA)


I already have a dish for FTA (charlie)
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mlc2000 wrote: I thought B3V was putting 3 new birds in the sky, which will make it impossible to use an FTA.
Same thing happened to DirecTV
Bev recently launched Nimiq 4 but its at the same 82 degrees west orbital location but it reduces the span of the signal and has impacted those who were receiving these signals south of our border. and also it isnt what happened with Directv, Directv uses a different type of decryption, rather than Nagravision and also because of the fact that Dtv hunted down and sued alot of people, the hobby with dtv is basically dead.
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teb wrote: I've read in the other forums you can use a starchoice dish to catch 82,91,110,119, not too sure about 129 to that as well.

But I've also read on many place that the arm will have to be replaced since the starchoice dish arm is longer. I am not too familiar with that dish.
It can be achieved with a plastic bracket for 91,101,110,119 and then you can just strap one next to the 91 lnb or others have chosen to use tubing or conduit and clamps to mount their lnbs, and yes the arm may have to be shortened. I'm thinking about trying this. lol
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teb wrote: on an FTA forum which I just looked up.

Feb 12 2008 they have been mailing out cards.

you should check out the fta forums listed and they have a 46 page thread on it
I've already gotten mine and swapped, i subcribe to bev...lol

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