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FYI - "Gear Best" payment data databases compromised by whitehat hacker

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Good to know. I've only used paypal there so should be fine.
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Jon Lai wrote: Why was the site banned here?
Because they were PMing posters, offering free or discounted products in exchange for good reviews. Even before that I was unimpressed with their ethics. For example all the reviews on their site were either four or five star. Also my experience was that any review I submitted that wasn't at least 4 star never made it to their website. Stay away.
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I remember seeing a Gear best rep here on the forum
Koodo $40 8GB
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PayPal FTW...well, until they're hacked also.
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bylo wrote: Because they were PMing posters, offering free or discounted products in exchange for good reviews. Even before that I was unimpressed with their ethics. For example all the reviews on their site were either four or five star. Also my experience was that any review I submitted that wasn't at least 4 star never made it to their website. Stay away.
Were the products good or not? If the products were good, then unban them. This is just silly vengeance by RFD that will prevent a lot of good deals being brought to hot deals. It's not like RFD members have eyes on all sites that are having good deals.
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JoeStale wrote: Were the products good or not? If the products were good, then unban them. This is just silly vengeance by RFD that will prevent a lot of good deals being brought to hot deals. It's not like RFD members have eyes on all sites that are having good deals.
The issue has nothing to do with whether their products are good or bad but rather on their sleazy tactics to secure good reviews.

They're just a Chinese online vendor. You can find the same products for the same prices elsewhere, e.g. AliExpress, GeekBuying and about a zillion other sites.
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LOL

They basically left an unencrypted database open to the internet.

I don't know why I'm laughing... I've bought stuff from them.
Good thing I was thinking ahead and used my non primary credit card.
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bylo wrote: Because they were PMing posters, offering free or discounted products in exchange for good reviews. Even before that I was unimpressed with their ethics. For example all the reviews on their site were either four or five star. Also my experience was that any review I submitted that wasn't at least 4 star never made it to their website. Stay away.
Same thing happens by many Amazon sellers as well.
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death_hawk wrote: They basically left an unencrypted database open to the internet.
Which is why I don't understand why anyone would want to do business with them, whether or not RFD has banned them.
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bylo wrote: Which is why I don't understand why anyone would want to do business with them, whether or not RFD has banned them.
I did because they were the cheapest at the time out of all the Chinese sellers.
Besides... before this happened we had no idea how they actually stored things.

Only when things come to light do you realize how terrible things actually are.

Have a look at NCIX. Same thing basically happened to them when they shut down and they were fairly reputable.
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death_hawk wrote: I did because they were the cheapest at the time out of all the Chinese sellers.
Besides... before this happened we had no idea how they actually stored things.
Sure, I bought stuff from them too. That's how I know about their sleazy practices first hand. And that's why I stopped doing business with them years ago. Even if they're slightly cheaper I'd rather pay a bit more to deal with someone else.
Have a look at NCIX. Same thing basically happened to them when they shut down and they were fairly reputable.
Yes, we know that unencrypted customer data was left on their storage drives when they went bust. Is there any evidence that any of that data was ever used in a nefarious manner?
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bylo wrote: Sure, I bought stuff from them too. That's how I know about their sleazy practices first hand. And that's why I stopped doing business with them years ago. Even if they're slightly cheaper I'd rather pay a bit more to deal with someone else.
What sleazy practices? (I'm genuinely asking, I have no idea)
I'm probably going to avoid them because of this, but it helps if there's more fuel for the fire.
Yes, we know that unencrypted customer data was left on their storage drives when they went bust. Is there any evidence that any of that data was ever used in a nefarious manner?
I remember reading that the guy that bought the hardware sold off the data to a buyer in China.
The guy that went investigating had full physical access as a "demo" before he was supposed to "buy" it.

What actually happened to the data I have no idea, but it's probably safe to say that it's out there somewhere being used by someone.
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engineered wrote: Same thing happens by many Amazon sellers as well.
Which is why those are constantly being cleaned up as well. Rules like the coupon code rule were specifically to combat this.

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