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Going for $1800, what do you think? Good price? Or better elsewhere?

https://www.newegg.ca/skytech-st-legacy ... 6883289046

Ryzen 7 2700 8-Core 3.2 GHz (4.1 GHz Turbo) CPU Processor, 500 GB SSD - Up to 30x Faster Than Traditional HDD, B450 Motherboard
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GDDR6 Video Card, 16 GB Gaming Memory DDR4 2400 with Heat Spreader, Windows 10 Home 64-bit
PCIe AC Wi-Fi with Antenna, No bloatware, 1 x HDMI, 3 x Display Port (Version 1.4), 4 x USB 3.1 Gen1 Ports, 2 x USB 2.0, 2 x USB 3.0, HD Audio and Mic, Free RGB Keyboard & Mouse
3 x 120mm RING RGB LED Fans for Maximum Air Flow, Powered by 80 Plus Certified 600 Watt Power Supply, In Win 301 Tempered Glass Case - Black, AMD Wraith Spire LED Spire Cooler
Assemble in the USA, This Powerful Gaming PC Capable to Run Any of Your Favorite Game at 1080P or 1440P High to Ultra Resolution with 60+ FPS Such As Apex Legends, Fortnite, Player Unknown Battleground (PUBG), Overwatch, CS:GO, Battlefield V, Anthem, The Division 2, and More.

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Parts look decent. I wish they listed the actual motherboard model instead of just the chipset.

You can save some money assembling yourself and buying individual parts and leverage some sales. Or for that price you could upgrade a few parts to higher tier.

I always recommend people build their own where possible, there's tons of videos and resources and help available these days to learn how to do it. It's also a great skill to have if you want to upgrade components down the line.

That said, this doesn't look like a horrible package, but there's definitely savings to be had if you're willing to put in the work to buy parts and assemble them.
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Pretty good for those specs and especially with rtx 2070 video card.
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At that price, +/- a little you can probably do better. Not sure I'd buy a last gen Ryzen processor when the current 3600x out performs it and the next gen stuff is around the corner. If you're comfortable building you can 100% do better, if not here's a couple options below that are up or down a little in price that I'd sooner go with. If you're looking for a mini sized case then I'd suggest building as you'll still get better quality for that price.

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/as ... r/14431176 (Also an open box of that one here for $1799: https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/as ... x/14682738)

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/as ... r/14431177

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/ac ... 0/13985811

Open box: https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/ac ... x/14458619
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Alright......last custom built PC that I did was in 2008.

Am thinking of upgrading to a much higher spec gaming PC and keep using these two / three components:

I have the ULT-VX600 600W ATX Power Supply
https://www.lakemichigancomputers.com/p ... wer-supply

Ultra ATX Mid-Tower Case
https://www.performance-pcs.com/chassis ... 138-d.html

Looking to get a RTX 2060 Super or 2070 Super with either AMD 5 or 7 or Intel i7 / i9 with at least 16gb ram 3200mhz and liquid cooler for CPU, or maybe I can still use my ZeroTherm Butterfly https://www.anandtech.com/show/2299/2

Thoughts?
Levistras wrote: Parts look decent. I wish they listed the actual motherboard model instead of just the chipset.

You can save some money assembling yourself and buying individual parts and leverage some sales. Or for that price you could upgrade a few parts to higher tier.

I always recommend people build their own where possible, there's tons of videos and resources and help available these days to learn how to do it. It's also a great skill to have if you want to upgrade components down the line.

That said, this doesn't look like a horrible package, but there's definitely savings to be had if you're willing to put in the work to buy parts and assemble them.
gh05t wrote: Pretty good for those specs and especially with rtx 2070 video card.
DarkMasterMX wrote: At that price, +/- a little you can probably do better. Not sure I'd buy a last gen Ryzen processor when the current 3600x out performs it and the next gen stuff is around the corner. If you're comfortable building you can 100% do better, if not here's a couple options below that are up or down a little in price that I'd sooner go with. If you're looking for a mini sized case then I'd suggest building as you'll still get better quality for that price.

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/as ... r/14431176 (Also an open box of that one here for $1799: https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/as ... x/14682738)

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/as ... r/14431177

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/ac ... 0/13985811

Open box: https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/ac ... x/14458619

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Cheapo-Findo wrote: Alright......last custom built PC that I did was in 2008.

Am thinking of upgrading to a much higher spec gaming PC and keep using these two / three components:

I have the ULT-VX600 600W ATX Power Supply
https://www.lakemichigancomputers.com/p ... wer-supply

Ultra ATX Mid-Tower Case
https://www.performance-pcs.com/chassis ... 138-d.html

Looking to get a RTX 2060 Super or 2070 Super with either AMD 5 or 7 or Intel i7 / i9 with at least 16gb ram 3200mhz and liquid cooler for CPU, or maybe I can still use my ZeroTherm Butterfly https://www.anandtech.com/show/2299/2

Thoughts?
You can probably reuse the PSU and Case cooler maybe, I'm not 100% sure without going and checking it specifically. That said coolers are cheap.

Where abouts are you located? If you're not comfortable building yourself I can offer some help in that regard (if you're local). Doing some wheeling and dealing I've built the below system well under your price range just recently.

Ryzen 5 3600
Corsair Vengeance RGB 16GB 3600mhz
MSI MPG x570 Gaming Plus
Corsair H100i RGB Platinum
SN750 500gb NVME SSD
1tb Samsung 870 QVO Sata SSD
ASUS Strix Vega 64 (roughly a RX 5700 or RTX 2060 performance wise)
NZXT h700i
Corsair AX850w PSU

A lot will come down to whether you want everything brand new, willing to go used market. Brand new some of the prebuilts will give you good value but lower end components. If you don't overclock and such then usually doesn't matter much. I always prefer building but it's somewhat of a side hobby for me anyways so its enjoyable!
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Thanks!

Does the ASUS Strix Vega 64 require additional power input?
DarkMasterMX wrote: You can probably reuse the PSU and Case cooler maybe, I'm not 100% sure without going and checking it specifically. That said coolers are cheap.

Where abouts are you located? If you're not comfortable building yourself I can offer some help in that regard (if you're local). Doing some wheeling and dealing I've built the below system well under your price range just recently.

Ryzen 5 3600
Corsair Vengeance RGB 16GB 3600mhz
MSI MPG x570 Gaming Plus
Corsair H100i RGB Platinum
SN750 500gb NVME SSD
1tb Samsung 870 QVO Sata SSD
ASUS Strix Vega 64 (roughly a RX 5700 or RTX 2060 performance wise)
NZXT h700i
Corsair AX850w PSU

A lot will come down to whether you want everything brand new, willing to go used market. Brand new some of the prebuilts will give you good value but lower end components. If you don't overclock and such then usually doesn't matter much. I always prefer building but it's somewhat of a side hobby for me anyways so its enjoyable!

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You can try reusing the case, but watch out for video card clearance, the drive 3.5" drive cage might get in the way of larger video cards and make the PCI-E power location difficult to plug in.

I'd suggest getting a new power supply. Ultra I believe was Tigerdirects house brand or something? and It wasn't very good.... besides I don't think it has even one 8pin PCI-E plug. Safer to get a new PSU if you're gonna put a $500+ video card in there...

As for the heatsink, if you can find the attachments for the correct socket. Just from looking at the anandtech review you posted, it doesn't look like it supports any Intel sockets beyond 775... if it does 115X then it should work on 1200 I believe. As for AMD, it supports AM2? Don't think AM2 coolers can fit AM4. So looks like you're going to need a new cooler.


The Act of putting together a computer haven't really changed all that much since your last build in 2008. Just plug a few things in.. screw a few screws onto stand offs and you're good to go. Setting up windows is as easy as ever. Even putting on the heatsink is easy compared to the Athlon Exposed Die days. If you can do it then.. you can do it now. Go for the custom build!
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Cheapo-Findo wrote: Thanks!

Does the ASUS Strix Vega 64 require additional power input?
The Vega 64 uses 2 8 pin connectors.

Otherwise I agree with Coilz above. Likely easier to just start from scratch given the price of cases and PSU's unless you want something crazy high end.

Likewise, the process is super easy to make. If you like RGB stuff it just becomes a cable management but no more difficult, just time consuming.
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Alright, so after hours of research....this is my list so far:

Canada Computers
  • MSI GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER VENTUS XS OC 6GB GDDR6 1815 MHz Boost Clock
NewEgg
  • Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L
Amazon
  • NZXT H510i - Compact ATX Mid
  • ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4
  • Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz
  • Corsair CP-9020178-NA RMX Series RM650x 80 Plus Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
  • AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core, 12-Thread
Total would be $1383 tax in.

was thinking of just getting the pre-built CYBERPC https://www.amazon.ca/CYBERPOWERPC-Supr ... 468&sr=8-2

but my bottleneck would be my monitor ASUS 24" FHD 75Hz 1ms GTG TN LED FreeSync Gaming Monitor (VP248QG) https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/category/g ... ors/474835

This one looks good:
$1876 all in
https://www.amazon.ca/CyberpowerPC-Mast ... 886&sr=8-3
System: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3. 6GHz 6-Core | AMD B450 Chipset | 8GB DDR4 | 240GB SSD | 2TB HDD | Genuine Windows 10 Home 64-bit
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Super 8GB Video Card | 1x HDMI | 2x DisplayPort
coilz wrote: You can try reusing the case, but watch out for video card clearance, the drive 3.5" drive cage might get in the way of larger video cards and make the PCI-E power location difficult to plug in.

I'd suggest getting a new power supply. Ultra I believe was Tigerdirects house brand or something? and It wasn't very good.... besides I don't think it has even one 8pin PCI-E plug. Safer to get a new PSU if you're gonna put a $500+ video card in there...

As for the heatsink, if you can find the attachments for the correct socket. Just from looking at the anandtech review you posted, it doesn't look like it supports any Intel sockets beyond 775... if it does 115X then it should work on 1200 I believe. As for AMD, it supports AM2? Don't think AM2 coolers can fit AM4. So looks like you're going to need a new cooler.


The Act of putting together a computer haven't really changed all that much since your last build in 2008. Just plug a few things in.. screw a few screws onto stand offs and you're good to go. Setting up windows is as easy as ever. Even putting on the heatsink is easy compared to the Athlon Exposed Die days. If you can do it then.. you can do it now. Go for the custom build!
DarkMasterMX wrote: The Vega 64 uses 2 8 pin connectors.

Otherwise I agree with Coilz above. Likely easier to just start from scratch given the price of cases and PSU's unless you want something crazy high end.

Likewise, the process is super easy to make. If you like RGB stuff it just becomes a cable management but no more difficult, just time consuming.
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The power supply you chose is a SFX size ( designed for smaller form factors/ small cases), cables may not be long enough to reach some places if you're using a ATX board/case, and I dont think corsair SFX power supplies come with SFX to ATX size panel adapter plate, so you wont be able to mount it to atx PSU mount on your case. You can also save a couple of bucks on Thermal paste since both your AIO water cooler and the stock cpu cooler should come with "decent" pre applied paste.

Edit: I think a build like this is similar to the pre built you posted.... https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KNFVk6 comes in a few hundred lower than the prebuilt too,, can use that $400-500 for a new monitor or up the GPU to a 2070 level+!
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Updated list....was thinking of ordering mainly from Amazon as returning parts would be much easier if needed.
coilz wrote: The power supply you chose is a SFX size ( designed for smaller form factors/ small cases), cables may not be long enough to reach some places if you're using a ATX board/case, and I dont think corsair SFX power supplies come with SFX to ATX size panel adapter plate, so you wont be able to mount it to atx PSU mount on your case. You can also save a couple of bucks on Thermal paste since both your AIO water cooler and the stock cpu cooler should come with "decent" pre applied paste.

Edit: I think a build like this is similar to the pre built you posted.... https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KNFVk6 comes in a few hundred lower than the prebuilt too,, can use that $400-500 for a new monitor or up the GPU to a 2070 level+!

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Everyone has decent return policies atm.

That looks solid honestly. Don't forget windows if you don't have a copy :P.

I might bump the GPU but it's decent for mid range.
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Also take a look in the BST forum for used parts. I think I've seen the corsair ram you're looking for in a PC parts post
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Levistras wrote: Parts look decent. I wish they listed the actual motherboard model instead of just the chipset.
It looks like an ASRock B450M Pro4.


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