Gas bill - WHOA

jeff1970 wrote: ↑ They are more efficient except in the coldest of climates (like Winnipeg...). That said, their extra cost, how long is the break-even point? From what I understand, by the the of the break-even point, you need a new unit.

StatsGuy wrote: ↑ regardless who's in power ...there's nothing they can do to influence price in any meaningful way short of gov't subsidizing the prices which really doesn't happen in developed democratic mostly free market countries

jmc111 wrote: ↑ Received my enbridge bill for the last 30+ days. This is the biggest bill I have ever received and I only used approx. 250 cubic meters. And I have set my house temp to 19.5 degrees. Once the cold temps hit in the next month, I am sure it will go even higher. 45%+ hike in the bill compared to same time last year. Use less, pay more. Lovely.

homeowner72 wrote: ↑ FYI: European Union is doing it for 2023: https://www.wsj.com/articles/european-e ... 1671446075

Prices must also be at least €35 higher than a reference level for global liquefied natural gas during the same period.

Traders say the cap risks creating distortions rather than actually limiting prices. They say it could create a situation in which gas costs the maximum allowed in the futures market but participants flock to a private, off-exchange market in which prices are much higher.

Implementing a cap could be messy, according to traders, exchange operators and central-bank officials.

The European Central Bank said on Dec. 2 that the measures designed to moderate extreme price levels and volatility could, in principle, reduce financial risks stemming from the energy market. But the bank added that the €275 cap proposal earlier put forward by the commission could jeopardize financial stability in the eurozone, in part by encouraging traders to move from exchanges to bilateral deals.

Worriedone wrote: ↑ I don't know how people can do that. Ours is set to 23-24 degrees. I'd freeze if it was set to 19.5. I'm expecting to see a $400-$500 bill in the mail based on what I am seeing from my rentals.

StatsGuy wrote: ↑ Holy crap! 23 or 24? Lol I complain when it's at like 19 inside and too hot and open the windows lol

Even in summer, hottest I let it get is 24 and only when I'm not home lol

You must save a lot in electricity in the summer then at least?

Worriedone wrote: ↑ I don't know how people can do that. Ours is set to 23-24 degrees. I'd freeze if it was set to 19.5. I'm expecting to see a $400-$500 bill in the mail based on what I am seeing from my rentals.

Kiraly wrote: ↑ Well there's your problem.

StatsGuy wrote: ↑ Holy crap! 23 or 24? Lol I complain when it's at like 19 inside and too hot and open the windows lol

Even in summer, hottest I let it get is 24 and only when I'm not home lol

You must save a lot in electricity in the summer then at least?

Worriedone wrote: ↑ I'd rather be warm then freeze and be uncomfortable.

Worriedone wrote: ↑ I'd rather be warm then freeze and be uncomfortable.

Worriedone wrote: ↑ I don't know how people can do that. Ours is set to 23-24 degrees. I'd freeze if it was set to 19.5. I'm expecting to see a $400-$500 bill in the mail based on what I am seeing from my rentals.

jmc111 wrote: ↑ Anything about room temperature (22 degrees) gives me a headache. Especially at work when other employees start playing with thermostat and push it up. I end up saying "I am outta here" and go home to work. 19.5 - 20 degrees is what I set and it works great. All depends on how large your space is as well and how many windows/doors that are exposed to the elements.

opendoor wrote: ↑ It's also a function of how drafty your house is. Before I did any air sealing work on my house, even 21º or 22º on the thermostat felt a bit chilly at times. But once I sealed up the gaps, even 20º is comfortable because there aren't really drafts and the temperature variation from room to room is almost nothing.