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To get a leadership position, I would require a degree. Is the investment worth it when there is no guarantee?

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May 29, 2017
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To get a leadership position, I would require a degree. Is the investment worth it when there is no guarantee?

While this is purely a gamble, I am just curious on opinions.

I currently have a career that is somewhat secured and im happy with; however, I would like to step into the realm of management one day. I see myself staying in this organization for another 30 years so I want to go as high as I can even if im happy with my position.

I have 1 constraint

1. I lack a degree.
Within this organization, none of the "leaders" are people with only a college degree. They all have some kind of bachelors. Even if they seem pointless, having them grants them leadership position.

Another small but... still an issue is... I'm within the union.
I may be wrong, but from what I understand the organization seems to shy away from giving management/leadership roles to union employees.

Currently the leadership roles start minimum are 1 dollar more than my current maximum and their maximum are 16 dollars more.

The only draw back is... If I take a degree it will obviously be in the realm of business management/ project management, so its not really branch of my previous education which is electronics engineering.

All in all... is this even worth the gamble if im already comfortable.
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Oct 16, 2013
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You can do a part time degree online. If you want to move into management in your org, you will need a degree. Have you tried asking them if they can pay for it?
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Jan 19, 2017
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Kitchener
If youre working for a company that you would see yourself working for long term, there should be some sort of established HR or manager that would be eager to discuss these prerequisite requirements with you. Many places offer further education, where they pay a portion, sometime all, of your education. At minimum they would see your eagerness to advance.
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Cnsr0033 wrote: While this is purely a gamble, I am just curious on opinions.

I currently have a career that is somewhat secured and im happy with; however, I would like to step into the realm of management one day. I see myself staying in this organization for another 30 years so I want to go as high as I can even if im happy with my position.

I have 1 constraint

1. I lack a degree.
Within this organization, none of the "leaders" are people with only a college degree. They all have some kind of bachelors. Even if they seem pointless, having them grants them leadership position.

Another small but... still an issue is... I'm within the union.
I may be wrong, but from what I understand the organization seems to shy away from giving management/leadership roles to union employees.

Currently the leadership roles start minimum are 1 dollar more than my current maximum and their maximum are 16 dollars more.

The only draw back is... If I take a degree it will obviously be in the realm of business management/ project management, so its not really branch of my previous education which is electronics engineering.

All in all... is this even worth the gamble if im already comfortable.
You can do competency-based online programs. Western Governors University ( US ) is one such example where you can get a degree for say 3500 USD if you manage to crack everything in 6 months.
I did a Masters's degree from Northern Arizona university and I cracked everything within 6 months. My total fee was 3000 tuition + 85 admissions.

I have a masters degree from US public university and is acceptable everywhere :)
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dentonic88 wrote: You can do competency-based online programs. Western Governors University ( US ) is one such example where you can get a degree for say 3500 USD if you manage to crack everything in 6 months.
I did a Masters's degree from Northern Arizona university and I cracked everything within 6 months. My total fee was 3000 tuition + 85 admissions.

I have a masters degree from US public university and is acceptable everywhere :)
Northern Arizona university is a good school like in the top 50.
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raichu1 wrote: You can do a part time degree online. If you want to move into management in your org, you will need a degree. Have you tried asking them if they can pay for it?
Yeah that's a no go. They will help pay for research but not degrees, but I can still inquire more just in case. If anything with their investors.
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May 29, 2017
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dentonic88 wrote: You can do competency-based online programs. Western Governors University ( US ) is one such example where you can get a degree for say 3500 USD if you manage to crack everything in 6 months.
I did a Masters's degree from Northern Arizona university and I cracked everything within 6 months. My total fee was 3000 tuition + 85 admissions.

I have a masters degree from US public university and is acceptable everywhere :)
And its accredited ? Or is this another "devry / everest " I can't fathom how 4 years of anything be condensed into 6 months. Certificates, sure. Ill look into if anyhting. One of my colleagues used an international bachelors.
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Cnsr0033 wrote: Yeah that's a no go. They will help pay for research but not degrees, but I can still inquire more just in case. If anything with their investors.
So your work doesn’t offer tuition reimbursement? You should double check with HR or on your internal website if you have one. Most big companies offer it.
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I vote it's worth it, but the union thing is obviously a potential roadblock.

Any chance you can give more info but still be anonymous? Industry?

I guess the leaders were external, did not start in the union?
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GTA12345 wrote: I vote it's worth it, but the union thing is obviously a potential roadblock.

Any chance you can give more info but still be anonymous? Industry?

I guess the leaders were external, did not start in the union?

Healthcare. Im one of technologist, but I would love to dip into the realm of leadership
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My husband did it. Instead of having the employer pay for the tuition, we just paid for it and claimed on income tax, and for the books, I think he asked them to pay for it but we did some textbook rental and pdf version of the books. He did it with SFU where he took 6 courses - 3 required and 3 electives. They offer them online option as well.

https://www.sfu.ca/continuing-studies/p ... urses.html
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One of the silliest things ever IMO. If someone has 10 years of experience and continuous learner then a degree doesn’t make much sense. If someone graduated in 2000 with a degree vs someone who graduated in 2010 without a degree but both work in the same field, then IMO a degree is meaningless. Are you going to hire a new grad to a leadership position because they have a degree? Likely not.

Life takes us on different directions and paths. A degree has its purpose and place, but the emphasis we both on higher education is silly IMO for some roles. Hell some people join the army at 18/19 and that in itself will give you an experience of its own.

With all that being said, I suggest speaking with your HR department. Also, consider if you really want to be a leader by title? Yes, you can get a degree, and meet the prerequisite but think long term if this is truly something you desire. IMO a degree is an investment and if people take it just to meet a prerequisite then what’s the point? Might as well change the prerequisite to a recent certificate in something meaningful in lieu of degree.

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