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gigabit internet true speed???

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gigabit internet true speed???

hey guys
I am not a network folk, so I really don't understand this concept.

So where I live, if I want more than 50 download, I have to go with Cogeco, so I just signed up a contract with Cogeco for gigabit internet I think it is 1gig download speed and 50m up

When I ran speedtest from my phone, I am only getting like 400-500m, is this normal?

I am right next to the modem with 5ghz SSID...
I am using their provided router (it says Hitron)

My wife was watching some TV show off Netflix during that time.
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It’s a phone and it’s on WiFi. The vast majority of similar setups can’t hit 1 Gigabit.

Also, I don’t know if that modem can even serve Gigabit over WiFi. Gigabit is on wired, and with modern fast computers. Many older computers can’t reach Gigabit either even with Gigabit network adapters.
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You cannot max out gigabit speed over wireless. Use a laptop/desktop with a network ethernet jack and plug straight into the router/cable modem to run a speed test. Use this as a guide:

https://www.speedtest.net/
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How many antennas do you have in your phone ? If 2, than it's normal.
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True,
Thanks guys, I mean I don't know where I should feel huge improvement.
I guess when my wife watches Netflix my work or game isn't lagging as much as before.
This provided router is supposed to handle that gigabit speed according to Cogeco lol

I have smartthigns mesh router also that runs different SSID mostly smart devices.
These routers can only handle up to 700m i believe.
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ESJExplorer wrote: True,
Thanks guys, I mean I don't know where I should feel huge improvement.
I guess when my wife watches Netflix my work or game isn't lagging as much as before.
This provided router is supposed to handle that gigabit speed according to Cogeco lol

I have smartthigns mesh router also that runs different SSID mostly smart devices.
These routers can only handle up to 700m i believe.
The router they provide can handle Gigabit just fine. Just not over WiFi, and that's par for the course.
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fastest wifi i got was 600mbps with note 10+ on 5ghz , im using stock rogers coda white hitron gigabit internet
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Had my Huawei P10 Plus beside my Rogers CODA-4582U modem (on Gigabit) connected to the 5GHz Wi-Fi network and pulled in these speeds:

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ESJExplorer wrote: Thanks guys, I mean I don't know where I should feel huge improvement.
I guess when my wife watches Netflix my work or game isn't lagging as much as before.
This provided router is supposed to handle that gigabit speed according to Cogeco lol
This is what I noticed when upgrading my speeds. 5 devices could be streaming YouTube at the same time and I can still work without any lag at all. If there are only 2 people in your household then 1 GB might be overkill for you. I downgraded to 500 MB/s download with 3 people in the house and that's fine.
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lol, why are you people even using 500 Mb or 1Gb

100Mb will be fine for 90% of people who stream with multiple users

netflix
0.5 Megabits per second - Required broadband connection speed
1.5 Megabits per second - Recommended broadband connection speed
3.0 Megabits per second - Recommended for SD quality
5.0 Megabits per second - Recommended for HD quality
25 Megabits per second - Recommended for Ultra HD quality
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sexyj wrote: lol, why are you people even using 500 Mb or 1Gb

100Mb will be fine for 90% of people who stream with multiple users

netflix
For a cable line on Rogers FYI they don't usually even offer 100 Mbps. Since 75 is iffy in some homes, I used to just recommend 150-300, just because of their pricing structure, but it seems they've mostly stopped offering 300. It's 75 Mbps, or else 150/500/1000. For me, the difference in price between 500 and 1000 was nothing and 150 wasn't much cheaper, so I thought I may as well get 1000 esp. since 1000 offers higher upload speed. This was a promotion though.

BTW, for 4K, Apple TV+ peaks at over 40 Mbps if your line can support it.

P.S. I just checked Cogeco's retail pricing structure, and the difference between their 120 Mbps tier and their 360 Mbps tier is all of $5 per month, and that's not counting promotions. Often in promotions, like for me above, they give you the highest tier for the same price. They're like a drug dealer - they give you the stuff cheap up front but then they raise the price and hope you are hooked.
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When I've download torrents, I've never seen torrent hit 27MB/s more.

1Gigabit speed = 125MB/s
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Mr. Robo wrote: When I've download torrents, I've never seen torrent hit 27MB/s more.
IOW, over 200 Mbps, for a single download.
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Mr. Robo wrote: When I've download torrents, I've never seen torrent hit 27MB/s more.

1Gigabit speed = 125MB/s
You may be CPU or storage speed limited

Torrents can be quite nasty resource hogs
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Wired I regularly hit around 950 Mbps down when wired

I can hit around 500 Mbps down on my iPhone

One thing though - I regularly have packet loss when playing games during prime time. Called Rogers about it numerous times and they tell me everything is fine signal wise. Annoying
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prime time is the keyword, all ISP oversell their capacity. there's so much capacity in their backend can support

no ISP in the world can offer real gigabit or even 100Mbps speed (full 24/7 commit) to residential users at these prices

that's why business internet are subject to SLA and speed commitments
Ziggy007 wrote: during prime time.
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sexyj wrote: prime time is the keyword, all ISP oversell their capacity. there's so much capacity in their backend can support

no ISP in the world can offer real gigabit or even 100Mbps speed (full 24/7 commit) to residential users at these prices

that's why business internet are subject to SLA and speed commitments
Would rather have consistency over speed though.

Rarely, if ever, need 1 gig speed, but kills you when you start getting 10% packet loss between 7-10pm
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Ziggy007 wrote: Wired I regularly hit around 950 Mbps down when wired

I can hit around 500 Mbps down on my iPhone

One thing though - I regularly have packet loss when playing games during prime time. Called Rogers about it numerous times and they tell me everything is fine signal wise. Annoying
If you have lag from packet loss, and if they won’t fix it, then that can be a good reason to switch to Bell. However, in my case my options are better since Bell is FTTH in my neighbourhood, and not just limited to 50 Mbps VDSL2.

I had lag spikes on Rogers cable which was causing me VPN delays. When I complained, it took them about 2 weeks to fix it. Now it’s fine.

I also had packet loss on Bell FTTN at 25 Mbps depending on the setup, but no significant packet loss on Bell FTTH at 1 Gbps.

sexyj wrote: prime time is the keyword, all ISP oversell their capacity. there's so much capacity in their backend can support

no ISP in the world can offer real gigabit or even 100Mbps speed (full 24/7 commit) to residential users at these prices

that's why business internet are subject to SLA and speed commitments
On Bell it was not fully guaranteed but nonetheless I had consistent 1 Gbps download speed (on Speedtest.net) even at peak times. My main problem was the modem was flaky and every so often (often at 3 am or something) it would go down and wouldn’t reconnect, therefore bringing down the phone line and causing my home alarm system to beep. Ironically, on Rogers, my phone line never goes down as it runs on a completely separate modem. That said, Rogers phone line is noisier in that I get more fax errors than I did on Bell.
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sexyj wrote: lol, why are you people even using 500 Mb or 1Gb

100Mb will be fine for 90% of people who stream with multiple users

netflix
It was $5 more to go from 120MB to 360MB, and another $10 would do gigabit.
Honestly, I dont give too much crap about $15 a month for potential upgrade.
I'm happy with the upgrade so far from 50MB.
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that's how they upsell you to something you won't need Winking Face
ESJExplorer wrote: It was $5 more to go from 120MB to 360MB, and another $10 would do gigabit.
Honestly, I dont give too much crap about $15 a month for potential upgrade.
I'm happy with the upgrade so far from 50MB.
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