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[GOG.com] [HOT][PC]Cyberpunk 2077 34CAD

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Ethics aside, if stuff gets abused like this then developers (who have out of good faith decided to release drm free games without microtransactions, and release the game when it is ready, not under a deadline dictated by corporate) will be more inclined to use more insidious monetization methods which is a net loss for everyone. I value the companies that in good faith avoid these practices (basically cdprojekt and indie devs at this point) because as trends have shown it is most likely far more profitable for them to do what most other AAA developers are doing and release an annually rehashed, $150 ultimate edition AAA game with season passes and microtransaction DLCs that is filled with bugs, I wouldn't even say its rewarding them, they aren't even charging any more than what a normal game costs. I guess what I am saying is most AAA games suck now but you cant really complain about the state of AAA game development if you actively push it in that direction.
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ae86fr wrote: How can you justify NOT paying for something you want? Like, are you 16?
How are you even posting this on the forum? In order to post you need internet, and in order to get internet access you need to pay, one of the BIG THREE telecom in this country, directly or indirectly through a reseller.
The BIG THREE are way WORSE than CDPR in their business practises, way more unethical ie. selling gigabit internet to elderly people when they don't even have computers.
Yet do you go to your ISP office and demand to be provided internet for FREE? lol
Bad companies existing doesn't excuse the behaviour of other companies. Like I've mentioned elsewhere, I've happily paid full price for this already. I feel no need to moralize over others choices of how to buy it.

Is chosing to pay less for a game via a known loophole morally worse than excusing the bad treatment of employees because you like the company/product?
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ae86fr wrote: It's actually quite disappointing to see people doing this tbh, but then again this is RFD so I probably shouldn't be surprised or disappointed.

Regarding the overtime work reported in the media, I mean, it's not like they are being chained to the desk and forced to do work for free. They are getting paid OT, so what's the problem? This kind of OT work exists in every industry when the deadline is near. Yet the media makes it seem only the software industry does this kinda thing. So it's quite weird to see people using this as an excuse to screw over CDPR here, "bcoz they r unethical company why should i act ethical towards them". like wow...

Regarding regional pricing, it is NEEDED. There is no way for a company, especially software, to charge the same amount in every country just using straight up currency conversion. It's not like it's never been tried before. Case in point, Microsoft Windows OS. Did you know Win98 costed around $1998 (Chinese Yuan) in China back in '98? It was a currency converted price, more or less equal to the US price at the time. Do you know how much people in China made each month back then? A good job, somewhere around $1000/month maybe, majority people made way less than that. And that's just a OS, you still have to buy the computer hardware to run the OS, which also costed arm and leg. This pricing practise directly led to the extremely huge and popular pirate market in China. Why pay $1998 for a legit copy when you can pay $10 for a bootleg CD copy at a stall by the side of the road? lol. why even pay for it at all? just use a keygen or crack to get it for free? Microsoft realized this soon after, and stopped using this and started regional pricing, combined with increased wage, directly led to the decrease in popularity of the pirate market. So really, regional pricing taking into account that country's purchasing power/ standard of living etc. is a must. So you can't really use this as an excuse and claim it is a "scam" because it is not.

I have no loyalty to CDPR, or any big company for that matter. (I used to worthship R* back in the GTA3, GTA-VC, GTA-SA days but of course they turned to sh*t later lol.) I support CDPR, not because I worthship them and think they can do nothing wrong like a crazy fanboy. No. I support them because of what they do, releasing good games that uses NO DRM.

If you look at the PC gaming industry today, can you name another one, JUST ONE COMPANY, that
- releases good AAA games
- does NOT use ANY DRM
- no microtransactions (by this i mean, they do not lock main content behind microtransactions on purpose)
- no RNG lootbox?
- free DLC
?
Name ONE such company please?

Remember when people said
> "games today are sh*t, full of paid DLCs and microtransactions, if they released good games I wouldn't have to pirate!"
Then companies released good games.
Then the same people said
> "if they didn't use DRM like sh*tty Denuvo then I wouldn't have to pirate! I would NEVER buy a game with Denuvo!!!"
Then CDPR released games with no DRM.
Then the same people said
> "they are terrible unethical company that works their workers to death!!! they don't deserve my money!!!"

ok. if you try hard enough, you can always come up with some kind of excuse to not pay for something you want.


To OP, I don't mean to offend you or anything, i am sorry if i did. It's just I don't support this way, but if some people can't afford the full NA pricing, but decide to support CDPR by paying for it this way, then I suppose it's not that bad of an idea.

But please people, if you can afford, please consider supporting company like CDPR. Not because of fanboism, or some kind of blind worship, or "virtue signalling". It's BECAUSE NO DRM. I can't stress this enough. After decades of different intrusive DRMs from SecuROM to Starforce to Denuvo etc. we finally have a company that refuses to use any DRM. Please don't kill it.

also if you look at the price of this game compared to other upcoming AAA games, it's not that bad.
Cyberpunk 2077 $79.99 on gog.com for full game with all content, with possible future DLCs being free according to CDPR.
Assassin's Creed Valhalla Ultimate Edition $159.99 on Ubisoft.com for full game with all content, with possible future PAID DLCs that's not included in the Season Pass.
It's literally HALF of what others are charging....
I am paying full price. And am very happy to do so. CDPR are one of the developers that totally deserve every dime.
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Thanks worked great. Just make sure to use paypal because just using my visa wouldn't work! Great deal thx OP
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For what its worth I 100% would not have purchased this game otherwise. I don't have time to play it. CDPR are ~+$40 from me. That's $4 to split between those poor well paid software devs who are actually getting paid overtime unlike the vast majority of Engineers in this country who are on salary.
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ae86fr wrote:
also if you look at the price of this game compared to other upcoming AAA games, it's not that bad.
Cyberpunk 2077 $79.99 on gog.com for full game with all content, with possible future DLCs being free according to CDPR.
Assassin's Creed Valhalla Ultimate Edition $159.99 on Ubisoft.com for full game with all content, with possible future PAID DLCs that's not included in the Season Pass.
Wow your credibility went straight to 0 with this comparison.
Normal version of Valhalla is 79.99$ as well
Collector edition for Cyberpunk is 324.99$

You guys have too much free time to spend on this deal Face With Tears Of Joy
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mobbie wrote: For what its worth I 100% would not have purchased this game otherwise. I don't have time to play it. CDPR are ~+$40 from me. That's $4 to split between those poor well paid software devs who are actually getting paid overtime unlike the vast majority of Engineers in this country who are on salary.
Yeah, all these weird long winded moralizing posts are missing the point.

For a lot of people on RFD, we literally hogged hundreds of games that we can’t even get through. Many of us weren’t going to buy this full price at launch anyways. The only difference this made is that CDPR got my $40 earlier, rather than a few years later when they inevitably discount the game.
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This is one game that I will more than happily pay the retail price for.
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BaptisteD81634 wrote: Wow your credibility went straight to 0 with this comparison.
Normal version of Valhalla is 79.99$ as well
Collector edition for Cyberpunk is 324.99$

You guys have too much free time to spend on this deal Face With Tears Of Joy
where is this collector edition for cyberpunk. I'm looking at their gog.com page can't find any info on it.

You missed the point completely.

It is a fair comparison, because for Cyberpunk, you pay $80 and you get all content.

The base price for AC is $80 but you do NOT get all content.
AC Gold edition has the Season Pass, but no skin packs, thus you also do not get all content.
Only the Ultimate Edition contains all the in-game content and it costs $160.
I thought RFD was supposed to help me SAVE money .... -__-|
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My opinion, as far as ethics go this is parallel to pirating songs/movies etc, and this is from one of the last remaining good guys in the gaming dept. Just my 2 cents, have fun.
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Don't think this has been mentioned in this thread, but GOG does kind of mention this regional pricing and the use of VPNs in their EULA:
Fair Pricing

6.4 We stand by the simple truth that $1 does not equal 1€ - we are trying to apply fair conversion rates. In a perfect world we would apply the same method of pricing to all of the games we offer. However, things are a little bit more complicated, and there are some games in our catalogue that follow a different region-based pricing scheme. However, we wouldn't be GOG.com if we didn't find a way to make it right by the users who end up paying relatively more for such titles. Here's where the Fair Price Package comes in!

6.5. The Fair Price Package applies to all of the titles which we couldn't include in our standard pricing scheme. If you end up paying more for a game in your local currency than its US price, we'll refund you the difference out of our own pocket. The refunded value will be added to your account in Store Credit in the currency of your purchase. You'll be getting Store Credit that you can use to purchase anything on GOG.com or partially pay for an item that's more expensive. Store Credit will be credited to your GOG account in the currency in which you bought the relevant GOG content (e.g. if you bought a game in US Dollars, any Store Credit regarding it will be in US Dollars).

6.6. Please treat this system sensibly and don't exploit it (for example by using VPNs or other methods to manipulate how your location appears) – that's not cool.
I don't have a dog in this fight -- just wanted to provide some additional info.
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I like how ppl are complaining about paying less for a game on a forum dedicated to paying less for things.
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what if they send me a russian language version?
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redflags10 wrote: what if they send me a russian language version?
Then you should start learning Russian now.
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Does anyone have this trick for death stranding?
HOW CAN I BE GOING BROKE WHEN I'M SAVING SO MUCH MONEY!?
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KentY198 wrote: I like how ppl are complaining about paying less for a game on a forum dedicated to paying less for things.
This.
Your post reminded me of a scene from the movie ConAir where the cons on the plane were singing a song made famous by a group (Lynyrd Skynyrd) that got killed in a plane crash lol
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skimmick wrote: My opinion, as far as ethics go this is parallel to pirating songs/movies etc, and this is from one of the last remaining good guys in the gaming dept. Just my 2 cents, have fun.
Lol, they are buying it from the "good guys." How is that even close to pirating?
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Teburninator wrote: Don't screw CD Projekt, they have good consumer practices and care about their customers. Wait until its cheaper if you can't.
If anything, buying via a VPN screws countries that are poor. Eventually developers won't sell in cheaper markets if enough people VPN buy.
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KentY198 wrote: I like how ppl are complaining about paying less for a game on a forum dedicated to paying less for things.
I don't want to pay less if it's unethical.

Grey market purchases are often costlier to a developer than pirating. At that point why pay at all? It isn't helping anybody to buy grey market.

This case is more unique though. CDPR is still making quite a bit of money.

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