Good all season tires for SUV

Jul 1st, 2021 5:32 pm

#1

DoNotBan [OP]: Member; Jun 18, 2018; 285 posts; 349 upvotes

Jul 1st, 2021 5:32 pm

So I generally have winter & summer tires. With Covid, I stuck with the winters all last summer and really liked not having to go spend $ having them swapped out and take time out of my day. I was thinking of ditching the process and get 4-season tires when I next need to buy new tires. I am in Qc, so need to have tires that have the "snowflake logo" on them during winter.

We generally only do 10-12000km/y and if the weather is really foul won't go out. So performance in very harsh conditions is not a huge concern. We also have an AWD SUV.

Any suggestions on a 4-season tire that could fit my needs?

PS : Having steelies to swap winter/summer tires is not an option. The wife wants the mags on the car

Jul 1st, 2021 5:38 pm

#2

RSX-S: Deal Addict; Jan 7, 2005; 1060 posts; 554 upvotes; Toronto

Jul 1st, 2021 5:38 pm

Take a look at michelin crossclimate.

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Jul 1st, 2021 5:49 pm

#3

AlicW93740: Sr. Member; Sep 25, 2018; 956 posts; 1954 upvotes

Jul 1st, 2021 5:49 pm

That's not all season or 4 seasons. You are looking at all weather. Look at this thread for options: official-all-weather-tire-thread-2035604/

Although many may not recommend all weather in QC given the amount of snow you get. Also all weather tires' thread goes down really fast in summer.

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Jul 1st, 2021 5:54 pm

#4

100Pacer: Deal Addict; Sep 13, 2012; 2561 posts; 2109 upvotes; Vaughan, ON

Jul 1st, 2021 5:54 pm

“All season” is just marketing, only a winter tire is rated for 7C and below. Only the winter tires will have the logo you mentioned is required.

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Jul 1st, 2021 7:14 pm

#5

DoNotBan [OP]: Member; Jun 18, 2018; 285 posts; 349 upvotes

Jul 1st, 2021 7:14 pm

100Pacer wrote: ↑ “All season” is just marketing, only a winter tire is rated for 7C and below. Only the winter tires will have the logo you mentioned is required.

The logo does come on some all-season.
Case in point (note the logo)

https://www.nokiantires.com/all-weather ... wr-g4-suv/

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Jul 1st, 2021 7:17 pm

#6

DoNotBan [OP]: Member; Jun 18, 2018; 285 posts; 349 upvotes

Jul 1st, 2021 7:17 pm

AlicW93740 wrote: ↑ That's not all season or 4 seasons. You are looking at all weather. Look at this thread for options: official-all-weather-tire-thread-2035604/

Although many may not recommend all weather in QC given the amount of snow you get. Also all weather tires' thread goes down really fast in summer.

Had not seen that thread - Thank you!

Jul 1st, 2021 7:24 pm

#7

Andy34: Deal Addict; Dec 19, 2015; 3777 posts; 2224 upvotes; Calgary, AB

Jul 1st, 2021 7:24 pm

DoNotBan wrote: ↑ The logo does come on some all-season.
Case in point (note the logo)

https://www.nokiantires.com/all-weather ... wr-g4-suv/

All Weather and All Season are both marketing terms, a way of trying differentiate for the general customer.

The real test is whether they’re actually rated for winter (I.e mountain snowflake symbol) - both all seasons and all weathers may have it.

Cross climates are probably the best winter rated all season/weather tire available in Canada, but there are a few others that may be an option too.

One thing to be aware of is that North American All Season tires are generally not the same as European All Season tires. The latter are quite often marketed as All Weather tires here to differentiate them from older North American All Seasons. Useful to know when you’re looking at European brands, especially if you end up looking at reviews of those tires done in Europe.

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Jul 1st, 2021 7:44 pm

#8

100Pacer: Deal Addict; Sep 13, 2012; 2561 posts; 2109 upvotes; Vaughan, ON

Jul 1st, 2021 7:44 pm

DoNotBan wrote: ↑ The logo does come on some all-season.
Case in point (note the logo)

https://www.nokiantires.com/all-weather ... wr-g4-suv/

That’s an all weather tire, not all season.

Again as stated above it’s all a marketing ploy.

Jul 1st, 2021 7:48 pm

#9

DoNotBan [OP]: Member; Jun 18, 2018; 285 posts; 349 upvotes

Jul 1st, 2021 7:48 pm

100Pacer wrote: ↑ That’s an all weather tire, not all season.

Again as stated above it’s all a marketing ploy.

ok I am catching on! New lingo for me. Thank you

Jul 1st, 2021 8:55 pm

#10

derass: Deal Addict; Sep 8, 2017; 4669 posts; 4933 upvotes; GTA

Jul 1st, 2021 8:55 pm

The following are all-weather tires designed for SUVs with the Three Peak Mountain Snowflake symbol:

Michelin CrossClimate SUV
BFGoodrich Advantage T/A Sport LT
Cooper Discoverer Enduramax
Hankook Kinergy 4S2X

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Jul 1st, 2021 9:39 pm

#11

wing0: Deal Addict; Mar 20, 2004; 4853 posts; 1895 upvotes; Mississauga

Jul 1st, 2021 9:39 pm

There's also
General AltiMAX 365AW
Kumho Crugen HT51

I like those as they're similar to Michelin LTX that has good longevity and traction in deep snow, plus non-directional for more even tire rotation wear.

https://www.quattrotires.com/tires/genral-altimax-365aw
https://www.quattrotires.com/tires/kumho-crugen-ht51

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyre ... p?type=HAS

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Jul 2nd, 2021 8:22 am

#12

Bayan: Member; Apr 18, 2011; 463 posts; 218 upvotes; Toronto

Jul 2nd, 2021 8:22 am

DoNotBan wrote: ↑ The logo does come on some all-season.
Case in point (note the logo)
https://www.nokiantires.com/all-weather ... wr-g4-suv/

Good to know. Thanks a lot.

Jul 2nd, 2021 8:25 am

#13

Bayan: Member; Apr 18, 2011; 463 posts; 218 upvotes; Toronto

Jul 2nd, 2021 8:25 am

derass wrote: ↑ The following are all-weather tires designed for SUVs with the Three Peak Mountain Snowflake symbol:
Michelin CrossClimate SUV
BFGoodrich Advantage T/A Sport LT
Cooper Discoverer Enduramax
Hankook Kinergy 4S2X

Is the Michelin CrossClimate SUV a directional tire?

Jul 2nd, 2021 9:41 am

#14

Tiger131: Member; Nov 9, 2020; 206 posts; 135 upvotes

Jul 2nd, 2021 9:41 am

Be careful about what the insurance companies view as “winter tires” too, especially if you get winter tire discount on your car.

Jul 2nd, 2021 12:15 pm

#15

derass: Deal Addict; Sep 8, 2017; 4669 posts; 4933 upvotes; GTA

Jul 2nd, 2021 12:15 pm

Bayan wrote: ↑ Is the Michelin CrossClimate SUV a directional tire?

Yes.

Jul 2nd, 2021 6:39 pm

#16

IcarusLSC: Deal Addict; Nov 7, 2016; 2684 posts; 1609 upvotes; Ontario

Jul 2nd, 2021 6:39 pm

Tiger131 wrote: ↑ Be careful about what the insurance companies view as “winter tires” too, especially if you get winter tire discount on your car.

Most all I've seen just say they need the 3 peak mountain snowflake and have certain times you need them on the vehicle.

Jul 2nd, 2021 8:05 pm

#17

georvu: Deal Fanatic; Feb 4, 2015; 9581 posts; 5908 upvotes; Canada, Eh!!

Jul 2nd, 2021 8:05 pm

IcarusLSC wrote: ↑ Most all I've seen just say they need the 3 peak mountain snowflake and have certain times you need them on the vehicle.

Not only do times vary depending on insurance company [seen up to May 31!!] but whether they accept all weather also varies... get in writing [email, letter, text] if a particular agent says acceptable.

2022/3: BOC raised 10 times and MCAP raised its prime next day.
2017,2018: BOC raised rates 5 times and MCAP raised its prime next day each time.
2020: BOC dropped rates 3 times and MCAP waited to drop its prime to include all 3 drops.

Jul 2nd, 2021 8:11 pm

#18

IcarusLSC: Deal Addict; Nov 7, 2016; 2684 posts; 1609 upvotes; Ontario

Jul 2nd, 2021 8:11 pm

georvu wrote: ↑ Not only do times vary depending on insurance company [seen up to May 31!!] but whether they accept all weather also varies... get in writing [email, letter, text] if a particular agent says acceptable.

Never heard of one yet that doesn't accept the 3 peak symbol, but I guess theirs a first for everything...

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Jul 2nd, 2021 8:23 pm

#19

georvu: Deal Fanatic; Feb 4, 2015; 9581 posts; 5908 upvotes; Canada, Eh!!

Jul 2nd, 2021 8:23 pm

IcarusLSC wrote: ↑ Never heard of one yet that doesn't accept the 3 peak symbol, but I guess theirs a first for everything...

I'm thinking that most/all do accept however the info from agents is not always consistent so best to get in writing in some format.

Was very surprised when getting Allstate quote that May 31 was winter tires date.

2022/3: BOC raised 10 times and MCAP raised its prime next day.
2017,2018: BOC raised rates 5 times and MCAP raised its prime next day each time.
2020: BOC dropped rates 3 times and MCAP waited to drop its prime to include all 3 drops.

Jul 23rd, 2021 5:46 pm

#20

verybo: Member; Oct 20, 2012; 423 posts; 127 upvotes

Jul 23rd, 2021 5:46 pm

IcarusLSC wrote: ↑ Never heard of one yet that doesn't accept the 3 peak symbol, but I guess theirs a first for everything...

RBC reps told me that all weather tires don't qualify for winter tire discount.
They, 2 different reps, said if I used the same set of tires all year around, then they are not winter tires.
If anyone has different experience with RBC, please let me know.

And on the other side, all weather tires are not accepted as all season tires for lease return.

It all depends on your insurance and leasing companies.
For me, it is the worst scenario.