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Got a $80 photo radar speeding ticket for going 42km/h

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Got a $80 photo radar speeding ticket for going 42km/h

Mississauga introduced photo radar at a number of locations this summer: https://www.insauga.com/photo-radar-beg ... ext-month/

I'm definitely against excessive speeding in residential areas, but to coincide with placing these photo radars in place, they simultaneously dropped the speed limit from 40km/h to 30km/h.

I just received a letter of offence in the mail that I was going 42 km/h and now have to pay an $80 fine. I've been driving on this road for over 20 years at a 40km/h speed limit. Now that it has dropped to 30km/h, it takes some adjustment.

I've been driving in Ontario for over 3 decades without so much as a parking or speeding ticket. This is my first. To me, this is just a money grab.
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It’s a grab yes. Pay the ticket and walk away.

It doesn’t go against your record.
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agree, money grab... it's tough for limits that low. I can't imagine what type of road actually justifies 30km/h...
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There's nothing to fight. You were going faster than the posted speed limit. They won't care how long you've been driving on that road.
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Alligatorclip wrote: agree, money grab... it's tough for limits that low. I can't imagine what type of road actually justifies 30km/h...
School zones? Although can't recall any 30 km/h streets in our area.

In some jurisdictions school zone speeds are 25 km/h.

In our area they are 40 km/h but rarely observed... now getting photo speed cams so hopefully catch the speeders who are doing 60 km/h +
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Yeah its why these machines usually end up vandalized.
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It is a money grab and it is almost unavoidable when driving in Toronto now.

Just pay it and be careful next time you are at the same spot.

No one cares if you drive 30 yrs and get no speeding or parking ticket, it is not a excuse for defense or make you a better driver than others.

Just suck up the ticket and move on. Treat it as a donation to city to help fix the damn roads, you will feel better.
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Anyone who live in York Region (ONTARIO), be aware I've noticed all the main roads around schools have new speed limit signs that have gone up within the last couple of weeks. Any road that is in excess of 50kph (i.e. MAX 60), there is signage that now state that the MAX drops to 50 between the hours of 7am and 5pm between the months of Sept to June. Stay safe y'all.
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I bring up my driving experience because I think it shows that I generally consider myself a good driver. I have kids and understand the need for safe driving in neighborhoods. Reducing the posted speed by 25% to 30km/h, immediately installing photo radar, charging $80 for going 42km/h is ridiculous to me. Usually, they would have extra signage to indicate an updated speed reduction, which they didn't do.

Anyways, I just sent them the cheque. If it reduces reckless drivers in the neighborhood, I'll do my part.
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kasm wrote: Usually, they would have extra signage to indicate an updated speed reduction, which they didn't do.
Not sure where you got caught but around me, the school zones have been reduced from 40 km/h to 30 km/h and there have been brand new signs posted on the streets since July indicating the speed drop AND even warning that speed cameras are coming.

There have also been mobile signs all over Mississauga advertising the speed drop to 30 km/h in school zones as part of their "Vision Zero" plan.
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$80 wow, that's a bargain. I thought with inflation and supply chain issues the minimum ticket is $150.

Don't forget to tip your city council and photoradar operator.
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kasm wrote: If it reduces reckless drivers in the neighborhood, I'll do my part.
I can guarantee you it will not.

I've been to places with speed cameras instituted for years, I still see aggressive drivers, drunk drivers, people who shouldn't be on the roads, etc. Oh and the speeding doesn't end either, they just slow down at the camera and then proceed to speed out of camera range. They have to warn you about the cameras there, which is why they fail.

This is simply a cash grab as you correctly noted. If they truly were serious about keeping your neighbourhood safe, instead of this camera they would then always have a officer patrolling the area. They can actually write proper tickets for reckless driving as the officer is much more versatile in judgement and ability to charge more crimes than a speed camera. If an officer sees a mild speeding offender but also a drunkard causing chaos at the speed limit, the officer will go after the drunk while the speed camera will ignore the drunk and ticket the mild speeder.
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I think speed bumps would be more effective if they were truly trying to calm traffic.
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mrweather wrote: Not sure where you got caught but around me, the school zones have been reduced from 40 km/h to 30 km/h and there have been brand new signs posted on the streets since July indicating the speed drop AND even warning that speed cameras are coming.

There have also been mobile signs all over Mississauga advertising the speed drop to 30 km/h in school zones as part of their "Vision Zero" plan.
Yeah the signs are pretty hard to miss. They added even more signs than usual with the lower speed in my neighborhood.
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40% over the posted speed limit?

If it is a 30km zone, I would think there was some risk reason, like maybe a playground zone.

I hope drivers will remember that school zones will be coming into effect soon. I hope that for children and drivers alike.
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chimaican wrote: Anyone who live in York Region (ONTARIO), be aware I've noticed all the main roads around schools have new speed limit signs that have gone up within the last couple of weeks. Any road that is in excess of 50kph (i.e. MAX 60), there is signage that now state that the MAX drops to 50 between the hours of 7am and 5pm between the months of Sept to June. Stay safe y'all.
Saw that as well... those roads are usually backed up in the morning so not sure if it will make it worse in the mornings/4-5pm.. Def a pain in the butt
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tehwegz wrote: $80 wow, that's a bargain. I thought with inflation and supply chain issues the minimum ticket is $150.

Don't forget to tip your city council and photoradar operator.
Maybe cheaper with the photo radar because you don't have to subsidize the cop's salary for writing out a ticket? Grinning Face With Smiling Eyes
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RCML27 wrote: Maybe cheaper with the photo radar because you don't have to subsidize the cop's salary for writing out a ticket? Grinning Face With Smiling Eyes
So what will traffic cops do now to earn their salary?
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Speed limit near our home has gone down from 40 to 30 and it’s a school zone. New speed limits were put up in the summer very prominently and last month I saw a sign installed saying speed camera coming soon. My guess was that it would be installed starting with the school openings. I had to change my route to and fro home because its only a matter of time before you fall into the trap Face With Stuck-out Tongue And Winking Eye

OP, likely you missed the warning signs because the city has done an excellent job in providing notice well in advance.
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