government jobs
I've applied to 100+ positions at 3 levels of gov, however never got a chance to be interviewed, any tips for applying government jobs in Canada?
Feb 3rd, 2021 12:17 am
Feb 3rd, 2021 12:23 am
Nope, I mean lots of people apply and the min requirements are like bare minimum, they get lots of qualified people like any desirable employer. Municipal is easier but it's not stable and compensation is not good unless it's like City of Toronto or Regional govt
Feb 3rd, 2021 3:07 am
Can you share a little bit more info? What type of Government jobs are you applying for and where? Are you looking to get into a specific role with the Government or are you looking to just get a job with the Government period? Are you willing to relocate?
Feb 3rd, 2021 3:39 am
Feb 3rd, 2021 10:42 pm
LOL basically, honestly it's laughable that a masters of public policy seems to be the bare minimum to get in nowadays, but at the same time all these MPP grads don't have any other skills so you end up with policy staff that don't actually know jack shit. Some areas you can BS, but others that are non-intuitive or counter-intuitive... ugh I mean some of the health policy recommendations... *shakes head*frozenmelon wrote: ↑ For federal government, spend a few hours reading this: https://polywogg.ca/polywoggs-hr-guide/
Also, have a master's degree, 2-5 years more exp than they ask for, and speaking French really helps. It's a buyer's market for employers.
Best of luck!
Feb 3rd, 2021 11:46 pm
Same problem as any org that staffs only with MBAs. At the end of the day, it's the leaders who make these hiring decisions. And unfortunately for everyone involved, at the highest level of the public sector the leaders are politicians who are appointed based on their ability to attract votes and make backroom deals, not their leadership ability or expertise in the subject matter at hand. The executives are no better. Most are just ladder climbing sociopaths who are more concerned about optics than results.SignedA wrote: ↑ LOL basically, honestly it's laughable that a masters of public policy seems to be the bare minimum to get in nowadays, but at the same time all these MPP grads don't have any other skills so you end up with policy staff that don't actually know jack shit. Some areas you can BS, but others that are non-intuitive or counter-intuitive... ugh I mean some of the health policy recommendations... *shakes head*
Feb 4th, 2021 2:59 am
Refer to my post here for why most people want a public sector job.
Feb 4th, 2021 8:20 am
Feb 4th, 2021 9:00 am
Most do have experience, they usually are active in their school and volunteer extensively and will have coop placementsSignedA wrote: ↑ LOL basically, honestly it's laughable that a masters of public policy seems to be the bare minimum to get in nowadays, but at the same time all these MPP grads don't have any other skills so you end up with policy staff that don't actually know jack shit. Some areas you can BS, but others that are non-intuitive or counter-intuitive... ugh I mean some of the health policy recommendations... *shakes head*
Feb 4th, 2021 9:20 am
Feb 4th, 2021 11:04 am
Feb 4th, 2021 12:31 pm
Im not sure what you're trying to argue here, I'm not saying they don't have experience as all MPP programs have coop placements. It's how they get their foot in the door.StatsGuy wrote: ↑ Most do have experience, they usually are active in their school and volunteer extensively and will have coop placements
Do you fee same way about workers at the big tech companies and others who recruit on campus? This is pretty normal.
And not like new grads go write policy, they're grinding just like any other place with their campus recruits .
I hire direct from school too, we have whole program and staff dedicated to it (big 5 bank), a lot of new grads are damn impressive even compared to people who've worked here for like more than a decade and it's just more hassle to let them go so we keep them around . I don't really care since more headcount means bigger budget
Feb 4th, 2021 2:29 pm
Feb 5th, 2021 9:23 pm
Feb 6th, 2021 5:47 am
Yeah people may tell you private sector make more but that is only the case when the economy is stable, no trade war, no pandemic, which is getting increasingly unlikely these days. Once you get older it is just really tiring to get layoff and having to uproot and move so all those potential benefit of working in the private sector just vaporizes instantly. Oh that is when you are still young, when you get older, I heard a lot of older people having trouble getting work again. There will always be people like @StatsGuy telling you otherwise but you know best.
Feb 6th, 2021 5:55 pm
Feb 9th, 2021 10:46 am