Heat pump house good idea?
I know baseboard used lots of electricity and that thing will get hot to touch
But what about heat pump?
Any down side compare to furnace? Is it more easy to break down?
May 22nd, 2021 5:44 pm
May 22nd, 2021 6:42 pm
If you don't have air ducts, adding a good mini-split heatpump system designed to work well in this climate is an excellent idea, can cut heating costs by 30 to 50%.
May 23rd, 2021 6:58 am
May 23rd, 2021 7:37 am
I use a heat pump, but it can't be a main source of heat in the canadian climate. My backup is electric baseboard. My heatpump been installed in 2012. It's a ductless minisplit,, and it is not one of the newer model that can heat your house with low outside temperature. But even with the newer models you'll need a backup heating source. It just can't be your only heat source during a cold harsh winter
May 23rd, 2021 9:07 am
May 23rd, 2021 9:46 am
A heatpump can absolutely be used as a primary source of heat with no backup in much of canada, but not where it drops to -40c.
May 23rd, 2021 2:46 pm
I run mine as low as -25 even though the specs says -15. BUT at a certain point it become less and less efficient. To heat a whole house with a ductless minisplit you must have more than one evaporator (the inside unit). Only one would never be able to heath a whole house, as it blows only in one room of the house... My indoor unit is located in the living room, and it heats the kitchen as well. But I do need the electric baseboards to heat the basement, and the sleeping rooms are barely heated, which suits our needs as we like to sleep in colder rooms.insertname2020 wrote: ↑ A heatpump can absolutely be used as a primary source of heat with no backup in much of canada, but not where it drops to -40c.
It has to be a unit specifically engineered to maintain full capacity down to -20c or lower and must be sized for heating. The house/building must be decently insulated.
Mini-splits are the best for this, there are few central machines that can do it.
Not all mini-splits either, only those specifically for cold climates.
The efficiency does drop as it gets colder, but at 150% (or getting 1.5kwh of heat for every 1kwh consumed) is still a major improvement.
Still wise to have baseboards or another source of heat for breakdowns as cold climate units are loaded with electronics that are not necessarily stocked on technician's trucks.
Baseboards are put in because they're cheap to install.
May 23rd, 2021 3:37 pm
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May 23rd, 2021 4:25 pm
Very popular in Québéc.
As with everything else, cost, or at least initial up front cost Never mid the savings potential.We don't see many ppl use them isn't it? I see many houses with baseboard instead
May 23rd, 2021 11:16 pm
Just wondering how much is the electricity for a month with both baseboard plus heatpump together?DoorCrasher wrote: ↑ I use a heat pump, but it can't be a main source of heat in the canadian climate. My backup is electric baseboard. My heatpump been installed in 2012. It's a ductless minisplit,, and it is not one of the newer model that can heat your house with low outside temperature. But even with the newer models you'll need a backup heating source. It just can't be your only heat source during a cold harsh winter
May 23rd, 2021 11:53 pm
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May 24th, 2021 12:01 pm
Would you mind sharing details like model numbers, install kits used and mounting options you selected and from where did you buy them? I'm planing to install it in the basement and living area. thanksinstanoodles wrote: ↑ My main floor of my house (1200 sq ft) is heated with 2 Fujitsu extra low temp heat pumps, a 9k and 12k BTU. I kept the temp at 21c all winter long and used ~2,300 kWh between the two from Oct to May. Electricity averages to about .16c/kWh out here so about $450 to use them all winter, mind you last winter was warmer than normal. Heat pumps operate slowly so if your house is poorly insulated/leaks a lot of air they may not be able to keep up with your houses heat losses when it gets cold out even if the manufacturer claims it works at a lower temp. I was able to close my natural gas account this year, the heat pumps are cheaper than gas for 10 months out of the year at least.
May 24th, 2021 12:19 pm
I didn't install them myself unfortunately, the industry is the worst for making sure you have to pay huge markups through an authorized installer. I had my 2 Fujitsu's installed by a local company, cost $9.2k for the both of them. Right now my basement is heated with a resistive thermal storage heater and I want to replace it with a heat pump but at $4.6k it doesnt make financial sense. I am looking at a Senville to DIY install myself if I can find a local HVAC guy to evacuate the system for me, its not complicated but if I want any sort of warranty I cant do it myself. That or I take the risk and install it myself, can buy almost 3 Senville units for the cost of one Fujitsu.
May 24th, 2021 12:44 pm