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Hit a pot hole, bent steelie

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Hit a pot hole, bent steelie

Was driving westbound last night on gardener by the merger of gardener /dvp. Unfortunately I hit a pot hole which resulted in a bent steelie, already ordered a new one. I will need to investigate if the tire is still okay, it was deflated by the time I got back home. Given that I didn't manage to take a photo of the actual pot hole, what's are the chances the city will reimburse if I file a claim? Any good tire shop or mechanic by downtown distillery district that will provide an assessment on the tire, not sure if it can be reused or will need to order a new one.
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Holy **** how big was that pothole? If it was that big to take our your rim, I'd suggest a new tire for nothing more then peace of mind. Odds of getting the city to pay for this is slim to none, but you can always try!
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The trouble with these very low aspect ratio tyres, I guess. When I got a vehcile years ago with 55 AR, that was considered very low!
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Oof! Ya gotta watch if your tire forms a bubble.

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If you drove on that tire, it's probably ruined.
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RedLego wrote: Was driving westbound last night on gardener by the merger of gardener /dvp. Unfortunately I hit a pot hole which resulted in a bent steelie, already ordered a new one. I will need to investigate if the tire is still okay, it was deflated by the time I got back home. Given that I didn't manage to take a photo of the actual pot hole, what's are the chances the city will reimburse if I file a claim? Any good tire shop or mechanic by downtown distillery district that will provide an assessment on the tire, not sure if it can be reused or will need to order a new one.
How many kms did you drive on the tire after the impact? What was the speed you drove at after the impact?
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CanadianLurker wrote: How many kms did you drive on the tire after the impact? What was the speed you drove at after the impact?
Drove approx 35kms in total. Initial impact, I knew I hit it hard but no signs of damage, so highway speed for another 15kms. Once I got off, I went to check and noticed the bent rim but the tire was still fine. So I drove local back home, speed around 60 but again once I got home it was deflated. I think I'll play it safe and order a new tire.
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RedLego wrote: Drove approx 35kms in total. Initial impact, I knew I hit it hard but no signs of damage, so highway speed for another 15kms. Once I got off, I went to check and noticed the bent rim but the tire was still fine. So I drove local back home, speed around 60 but again once I got home it was deflated. I think I'll play it safe and order a new tire.
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Cheapo-Findo wrote: Oof! Ya gotta watch if your tire forms a bubble.
Yeah I'm quite surprised that didn't happen with that kind of damage! Either the wheel is fairly weak, the tyre is really strong, or OP just got unlucky with the wheel and lucky with the tyre. However the tyre may be damaged internally, whomever OP gets to change it will be able to tell when it comes off the wheel.

But yeah OP that's one heck of a damage! Submit claim to province or whatever, not sure if you'll get any reimbursement but worth a shot right? As mentioned tech should be able to tell you if you need a new tyre or not.
plznote wrote: If you drove on that tire, it's probably ruined.
It looks like the tyre is holding pressure though, which means driving on it shouldn't be a problem. However the impact may have damaged it internally, as mentioned.
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RedLego wrote: Was driving westbound last night on gardener by the merger of gardener /dvp. Unfortunately I hit a pot hole which resulted in a bent steelie, already ordered a new one. I will need to investigate if the tire is still okay, it was deflated by the time I got back home. Given that I didn't manage to take a photo of the actual pot hole, what's are the chances the city will reimburse if I file a claim? Any good tire shop or mechanic by downtown distillery district that will provide an assessment on the tire, not sure if it can be reused or will need to order a new one.
i would replace that tire..cant tell for sure but it looks like you have a wear ring on it from driving on it...wont last a few days if you reuse it..

as for a claim...save your time and effort....the easiest defense for them is "if its so bad why are you the only one damaged when 100 000 people have driven over it"

also they will just say that your tires weren't inflated to spec , which in my opinion was probably true..

...most time when these things happen, tires are underinflated and cannot absorb, and cushion the impact , resulting in bent rim, or punctured/cut/ tire.

or the just needed replacing anyway
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RedLego wrote: Drove approx 35kms in total. Initial impact, I knew I hit it hard but no signs of damage, so highway speed for another 15kms. Once I got off, I went to check and noticed the bent rim but the tire was still fine. So I drove local back home, speed around 60 but again once I got home it was deflated. I think I'll play it safe and order a new tire.
So probably deflated after you got onto city streets with more stop & go and turning. The turning probably eventually broke the seal at the bead. So you probably did at least the last few kms on a flat (maybe more). I’d say the tire is most likely done given the added stress on the sidewall.
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Mozt Ontario jurisdictions have standards for pothole repair times from the day a specific pothole has been reported. I believe that the standards are set by the Ontario Municipal Act. On a residential street with a 1 square ft pothole of 3" deep the standard is 30 days.

So...

If the OP's pothole had been reported by someone in mid January, they may have a claim. A steelie is $100 and mounting and balancing is maybe $25. I personally don't think anybody should clog the system with such a petty claim unless the city is negligent - at least a claim is an attempt to make a negligent jurisdiction accountable.
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CaptSmethwick wrote: Mozt Ontario jurisdictions have standards for pothole repair times from the day a specific pothole has been reported. I believe that the standards are set by the Ontario Municipal Act. On a residential street with a 1 square ft pothole of 3" deep the standard is 30 days.

So...

If the OP's pothole had been reported by someone in mid January, they may have a claim. A steelie is $100 and mounting and balancing is maybe $25. I personally don't think anybody should clog the system with such a petty claim unless the city is negligent - at least a claim is an attempt to make a negligent jurisdiction accountable.
Looking like $400+ repair job. New tire $290, steelie $100, then labour.

Well I called 311, they say it will take at least four days for the city to look into it and possibly repair.
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Damn. That's serious damage to your rim.
I've driven over potholes on the highway but have been lucky not getting any serious damage to my tire or rim.
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RedLego wrote: Looking like $400+ repair job. New tire $290, steelie $100, then labour.

Well I called 311, they say it will take at least four days for the city to look into it and possibly repair.
It's still a small amount and unless the city was negligent, they're not "at fault". Stuff happens and I am sorry that it happened to you. The vast majority of pothole damage claims are denied here in Ottawa and the city encourages residents to handle any claim through their own insurance policy. Sorry but I don't expect it's much different in Toronto.

My daughter had similar damage to a steelie a couple of years ago. The tire was fine and the replacement steelie and mounting set me back $125. I couldn't be bothered "pursuing" the city for such a petty claim and frankly wouldn't even if I had to replace a tire on top of it.
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plznote wrote: If you drove on that tire, it's probably ruined.
+1

I bent a steel rim nearly as bad, tire didn't deflate though. Having taller tires probably saved it. I took the rim off and banged it back into shape with a sledge hammer, never had a problem.
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Maybe for winter tyres, get small diameter rims and high aspect ratio for more shock absorbency. Might be buying 6-7 tyres and they'll be 70-80 AR despite the 19.5" or 22.5" wheel diameter.

Bet you'd never bend another rim with one of these.

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unfortunately, the city municipal will unlikely reimburse you
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If you didnt take a picture of the the pothole at that time its unlikely.
But you can submit a claim see if it goes anywhere and get lucky.
With COVID-19 its probably backlogged like crazy anyway.
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