$249 - Milwaukee Brushless Hammer Drill / Impact Driver, 3 Batteries

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Oct 16th, 2017 8:26 pm

Rob_EV [OP]: Deal Fanatic; Sep 10, 2008; 9344 posts; 7549 upvotes; Kitchener

Oct 16th, 2017 8:26 pm

[Home Depot] $249 - Milwaukee Brushless Hammer Drill / Impact Driver, 3 Batteries

Price:: $249.00
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Seemed like a pretty good deal, saw this evening at Kitchener East Home Depot. Had about 6 in stock.

Brushless, but not labeled as Fuel. Seems a bit curious.

Might also qualify for a bonus battery, but not sure. I would have bought, but already have way too many Milwaukee tools.

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Oct 16th, 2017 8:49 pm

DealFixation: Sr. Member; Mar 7, 2017; 707 posts; 395 upvotes; Ham, ON

Oct 16th, 2017 8:49 pm

If these sets were the same price (and both only came with 2 batteries), which one would be better? I don't know enough about power tools/their reputation to know which brand/tool will be tougher and last longer in the long run. https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01A08 ... UTF8&psc=1

Seem to both have 2x 2ah batteries, and are both brushless.

It appears the Milwaukee is a hammer drill. Does anyone have any experience/insight here?

Oct 16th, 2017 8:52 pm

ragin_pyro: Deal Addict; Sep 18, 2003; 1735 posts; 253 upvotes; Winnipeg

Oct 16th, 2017 8:52 pm

It is eligible: https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.m18- ... promotions

I believe the fuel is the top tier and non fuel brushless is one below. It's a recent thing.

Oct 16th, 2017 8:55 pm

ragin_pyro: Deal Addict; Sep 18, 2003; 1735 posts; 253 upvotes; Winnipeg

Oct 16th, 2017 8:55 pm

DealFixation wrote: ↑ If these sets were the same price (and both only came with 2 batteries), which one would be better? I don't know enough about power tools/their reputation to know which brand/tool will be tougher and last longer in the long run. https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01A08 ... UTF8&psc=1

Seem to both have 2x 2ah batteries, and are both brushless.

It appears the Milwaukee is a hammer drill. Does anyone have any experience/insight here?

With the Milwaukee you would get a third battery.

The DeWalt drill is their top of the line compact drill.

The hammer drill has a hammer function so you can drill into concrete. If you occasionally have to drill or it's a light job it will work.

It would also depend if you're going to get other cordless tools, so you can use the batteries.

Oct 16th, 2017 8:58 pm

Faith24: Deal Addict; Feb 29, 2012; 2654 posts; 1459 upvotes; Richmond

Oct 16th, 2017 8:58 pm

IntrepidRT wrote: ↑Brushless, but not labeled as Fuel. Seems a bit curious.

Correct. Milwaukee has a new line of brushless tools with smaller, less powerful motors than the Fuel models, not the same as the brushed-motor models. They are optimized for longer battery life, smaller size, and less weight rather than ultimate power.

See http://www.coptool.com/milwaukee-m18-co ... brushless/

Oct 16th, 2017 9:02 pm

DealFixation: Sr. Member; Mar 7, 2017; 707 posts; 395 upvotes; Ham, ON

Oct 16th, 2017 9:02 pm

ragin_pyro wrote: ↑ With the Milwaukee you would get a third battery.

The DeWalt drill is their top of the line compact drill.

The hammer drill has a hammer function so you can drill into concrete. If you occasionally have to drill or it's a light job it will work.

It would also depend if you're going to get other cordless tools, so you can use the batteries.

Thanks for the info. I bought the Dewalt kit yesterday on Amazon as the price momentarily dropped to $200 for the kit I linked. I was debating returning it because I bought more on an impulse and didn't do proper research. Is there a flat out better Drill/Impact driver kit than this on the market right now aside from the Hiltis?

Oct 16th, 2017 9:28 pm

thatsnasty: Member; Nov 3, 2010; 313 posts; 502 upvotes; Niagara Falls

Oct 16th, 2017 9:28 pm

DealFixation wrote: ↑ Thanks for the info. I bought the Dewalt kit yesterday on Amazon as the price momentarily dropped to $200 for the kit I linked. I was debating returning it because I bought more on an impulse and didn't do proper research. Is there a flat out better Drill/Impact driver kit than this on the market right now aside from the Hiltis?

https://www.amazon.ca/DEWALT-DCK299M2-L ... rds=DCD996

What you want is the DCD996 hammer drill, either by itself or with the kit ( I linked it ).
DeWalt makes a lot of kits, so I can understand the confusion, but I've used most of all of the drills, and the smaller ones (especially the non-hammer drills) are like children's toys compared to this.
My buddy is an electrician and we use his tools a lot on the job, most of which are the 20v max line and they are way better than the 18v stuff, or cheaper non-hammer variant of the 20v.

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Oct 16th, 2017 9:38 pm

mikefly: Member; Mar 1, 2017; 486 posts; 213 upvotes

Oct 16th, 2017 9:38 pm

Dewalt kit you linked on amazon is not a hammer drill. The Milwaukee does come with a free battery at Home Depot - and their ridiculous return policy.

Both are excellent sets - I bought the Milwaukee because it had a hammer drill and was cheaper than the dewalt kit (with hammer drill)

I believe both are similar quality and both are brushless, which means the battery lasts way longer. I preferred the dewalt impact - but not enough to pay more.

DealFixation wrote: ↑ Thanks for the info. I bought the Dewalt kit yesterday on Amazon as the price momentarily dropped to $200 for the kit I linked. I was debating returning it because I bought more on an impulse and didn't do proper research. Is there a flat out better Drill/Impact driver kit than this on the market right now aside from the Hiltis?

Oct 16th, 2017 9:46 pm

mikefly: Member; Mar 1, 2017; 486 posts; 213 upvotes

Oct 16th, 2017 9:46 pm

20v max or 20v max XR? The XR is their brushless line.

The 20v is exactly the same voltage as 18v (and is marked as such on packaging). It's just marketing.

Edit: the OP was going to buy a non-hammer drill. Why would he then need the DCD996? Better off spending a little less money on either the 796 or non fuel brushless Milwaukee IMO.

thatsnasty wrote: ↑ https://www.amazon.ca/DEWALT-DCK299M2-L ... rds=DCD996

What you want is the DCD996 hammer drill, either by itself or with the kit ( I linked it ).
DeWalt makes a lot of kits, so I can understand the confusion, but I've used most of all of the drills, and the smaller ones (especially the non-hammer drills) are like children's toys compared to this.
My buddy is an electrician and we use his tools a lot on the job, most of which are the 20v max line and they are way better than the 18v stuff, or cheaper non-hammer variant of the 20v.

Oct 16th, 2017 9:56 pm

thatsnasty: Member; Nov 3, 2010; 313 posts; 502 upvotes; Niagara Falls

Oct 16th, 2017 9:56 pm

mikefly wrote: ↑ 20v max or 20v max XR? The XR is their brushless line.

The 20v is exactly the same voltage as 18v (and is marked as such on packaging). It's just marketing.

XR is the "rugged" version of their tools. They're usually heavier or metal instead of all plastic. They make brushless tools that aren't XR, and you don't really "need" XR.
I'm not talking about 18v vs 20v power, 18v DeWalt is ni-cad vs 20v which is lithum ion. LI is the superior battery tech.

I'm also not saying DW is the be-all end-all. My buddy was also saying that a couple of the 18v drills by Milwaukee or Makita actually have as much or more power than the DCD996 from DeWalt, but if you want the best from the 20v line that can actually drill concrete, you want that one.

Edit: I agree, if you aren't gunna use the hammer, this is all irrelevant. Buy whatever is cheapest for what you want. But he asked what the better kit was, and the one I linked was basically their "best". If you can find it on sale, I'd spend the extra little bit and get the hammer drill.

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Oct 16th, 2017 9:58 pm

buddylee_moa: Newbie; Apr 30, 2008; 86 posts; 63 upvotes

Oct 16th, 2017 9:58 pm

I got this pack 4 years ago and beat the living shit out of them. Still work like new its quite amazing

Oct 16th, 2017 9:59 pm

DealFixation: Sr. Member; Mar 7, 2017; 707 posts; 395 upvotes; Ham, ON

Oct 16th, 2017 9:59 pm

thatsnasty wrote: ↑ https://www.amazon.ca/DEWALT-DCK299M2-L ... rds=DCD996

What you want is the DCD996 hammer drill, either by itself or with the kit ( I linked it ).
DeWalt makes a lot of kits, so I can understand the confusion, but I've used most of all of the drills, and the smaller ones (especially the non-hammer drills) are like children's toys compared to this.
My buddy is an electrician and we use his tools a lot on the job, most of which are the 20v max line and they are way better than the 18v stuff, or cheaper non-hammer variant of the 20v.

Thanks for the info. Seems this kit was 225 last year during Christmas. https://forums.redflagdeals.com/amazon- ... 9-2068526/

Oct 16th, 2017 10:06 pm

Rob_EV [OP]: Deal Fanatic; Sep 10, 2008; 9344 posts; 7549 upvotes; Kitchener

Oct 16th, 2017 10:06 pm

LOL at the Dewalt 20V BS.......they've been tested to be lower voltage than the 18V Milwaukee drills. Just marketing fabricated lies about the battery voltage. The Milwaukee drills are generally heavier duty and more powerful when you compare the same lines of tools.

Many people are pretty stupid when it comes to branding and the truth is that 20V Max DeWalt tools are no more powerful than 18V tools of any other brand. There's a reason DeWalt is ONLY allowed to get away with their BS branding in North America, everywhere else there are laws against how DeWalt brands their tools (false advertising laws).

Get educated:
http://toolguyd.com/dewalt-20v-max-18v/

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Oct 16th, 2017 10:07 pm

mikefly: Member; Mar 1, 2017; 486 posts; 213 upvotes

Oct 16th, 2017 10:07 pm

I think you are clarifying - for dewalt - 18v is nicad, 20v is lion. LiOn is definitely better. All other brands have 18v for their lines. Did not realize that dewalt had non XR brushless. The price point must be very close.

I've just spent a ridiculous amount of time comparing and trying many of these drills so have a fair amount of insight right now. For an average home user (which I am, and I am pretty sure OP is) the top of the line hammer drill is overkill. I've used both the Milwaukee and dewalt slightly less than best - and they are amazing.

thatsnasty wrote: ↑ XR is the "rugged" version of their tools. They're usually heavier or metal instead of all plastic. They make brushless tools that aren't XR, and you don't really "need" XR.
I'm not talking about 18v vs 20v power, 18v DeWalt is ni-cad vs 20v which is lithum ion. LI is the superior battery tech.

I'm also not saying DW is the be-all end-all. My buddy was also saying that a couple of the 18v drills by Milwaukee or Makita actually have as much or more power than the DCD996 from DeWalt, but if you want the best from the 20v line that can actually drill concrete, you want that one.

Edit: I agree, if you aren't gunna use the hammer, this is all irrelevant. Buy whatever is cheapest for what you want. But he asked what the better kit was, and the one I linked was basically their "best". If you can find it on sale, I'd spend the extra little bit and get the hammer drill.

Oct 16th, 2017 10:19 pm

thatsnasty: Member; Nov 3, 2010; 313 posts; 502 upvotes; Niagara Falls

Oct 16th, 2017 10:19 pm

IntrepidRT wrote: ↑LOL at the Dewalt 20V BS.......they've been tested to be lower voltage than the 18V Milwaukee drills. Just marketing fabricated lies about the battery voltage. The Milwaukee drills are generally heavier duty and more powerful when you compare the same lines of tools.

Did you even read my post? I already said it's known that Milwaukee has powerful drills in the 18v line that are more powerful than DeWalts 20v DCD996. This isn't a pissing match and the high end hammer drills from both companies are solid performers.
It the end, people will buy what they want, and what they already have batteries for.

mikefly wrote: ↑ I think you are clarifying - for dewalt - 18v is nicad, 20v is lion. LiOn is definitely better. All other brands have 18v for their lines. Did not realize that dewalt had non XR brushless. The price point must be very close.

I've just spent a ridiculous amount of time comparing and trying many of these drills so have a fair amount of insight right now. For an average home user (which I am, and I am pretty sure OP is) the top of the line hammer drill is overkill. I've used both the Milwaukee and dewalt slightly less than best - and they are amazing.

You and me both, but I think we are more or less agreeing with each-other.
I think the real winner would be finding the kit on sale again like last year's black friday. It would be extremely hard to beat at that price point.

Oct 16th, 2017 11:03 pm

Inno: Deal Fanatic; Feb 5, 2006; 7536 posts; 1485 upvotes; Toronto

Oct 16th, 2017 11:03 pm

ragin_pyro wrote: ↑ With the Milwaukee you would get a third battery.

The DeWalt drill is their top of the line compact drill.

The hammer drill has a hammer function so you can drill into concrete. If you occasionally have to drill or it's a light job it will work.

It would also depend if you're going to get other cordless tools, so you can use the batteries.

What size is the "bonus" battery they give you with the M18 kit?

If I am not mistaken, I think this is one of the kits that came with a free bonus of an M18 tool (your choice) back in the spring.

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Oct 16th, 2017 11:06 pm

Spawk1028: Deal Addict; Oct 28, 2016; 1667 posts; 6415 upvotes; Albertariolandbec

Oct 16th, 2017 11:06 pm

3.0ah

What's in your wallet?

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Oct 16th, 2017 11:22 pm

Phantasm: Deal Addict; Feb 19, 2009; 1178 posts; 327 upvotes; Burlington

Oct 16th, 2017 11:22 pm

thatsnasty wrote: ↑ 18v DeWalt is ni-cad vs 20v which is lithum ion. LI is the superior battery tech.

DeWalt made 18v lithium ion batteries too before they came out with the "20v" line of tools.

Personally I think the 20v tools are great, but I agree that it's a bunch of marketing BS. They switched to a different physical size for the 20v line so the old batteries were not compatible, forcing everyone to buy new sets of batteries with the new line of tools.

Oct 16th, 2017 11:27 pm

Inno: Deal Fanatic; Feb 5, 2006; 7536 posts; 1485 upvotes; Toronto

Oct 16th, 2017 11:27 pm

Is there currently a 10% off promo for using your HD credit card? That would sweeten this deal a bit.

Oct 17th, 2017 7:17 am

oIIIIIo: Deal Addict; Jul 27, 2006; 1110 posts; 815 upvotes; Moncton

Oct 17th, 2017 7:17 am

This is a better deal than the recent Dewalt sales. The receipt lists the battery separately as $129, but underneath states "max refund value $84.98". So if you don't need the extra battery, you should be able to return it for $85 for a net cost of $164 plus tax for the kit.

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