RYOBI 18V ONE+ Lithium-Ion Cordless 1/2-inch Drill/Driver and Impact Driver Kit with Batteries and Charger - $98

This ones are Brushed, I do not have use case of extensively using it though.
Can anyone comment if this makes huge difference from brushless ones for casual use ?

swap102 wrote: ↑ This ones are Brushed, I do not have use case of extensively using it though.
Can anyone comment if this makes huge difference from brushless ones for casual use ?

I heard the difference is negligible unless you work with them 8HR/day, even those people wouldn't necessarily need brushless.

Thank for sharing, I really needed an occasional-use backup set.

Is the impact driver good enough to handle lug nuts?

swap102 wrote: ↑This ones are Brushed, I do not have use case of extensively using it though.
Can anyone comment if this makes huge difference from brushless ones for casual use ?

Definitely not. Brushed models should be fine for almost every casual user/ basic homeowner.

HeatSeeker wrote: ↑ Is the impact driver good enough to handle lug nuts?

If you weaken with a breaker bar then yes. If not, in other threads people report adapters snapping.

xxxibgdrgn wrote: ↑ I heard the difference is negligible unless you work with them 8HR/day, even those people wouldn't necessarily need brushless.

I don't agree. I work about 3-4 hours 6 days a week and I would still much much prefer the brushless version. I don't know about this particular model but I have the new HP compact driver and I tried the old cheap one. Those two tools are from completely different universes. The HP build quality is almost the same as Milwaukee. The only difference is about a third of a second delay at start. The regular impact that I tried a few years ago felt extremely cheaply made. Buttons, driver motor feel, everything. In fact I like the new Ryobi HP better than Milwaukee from a few years ago because it has a nicer ejection socket (no need to pull to insert and spring ejection when removing)

HeatSeeker wrote: ↑ Is the impact driver good enough to handle lug nuts?

I had a very poor experience with Lugs - they didn't move & the Ryobi Impact bit cracked in half.
That may speak to the amount of torque on the driver, and more so the quality of the bit.

I bought this set back in 2018 when they went on sale for $88 (I don't think it's happened again and it comes with a newer charger now so this is probably as good as the deal gets). For casual use around the house, these will be more than enough even though they're brushed. I've used these to build 2 decks, privacy screens, boxed planters, a desk / other basic pieces of furniture, a workbench, drawers in kitchen cabinets, shelving in the garage and basement, etc... So although you would get more power / efficiency from a brushless set (at a higher cost), I can't say that I feel these brushed versions have really held me back for my usage cases

HeatSeeker wrote: ↑ Is the impact driver good enough to handle lug nuts?

You should probably look for the impact wrench and not the impact driver

I have these and wouldn't recommend them to anyone. I used them to build a 45 foot fence, they had more then enough power for that. These are not brushless (less power, and they are heavy.). The 1.5ah batteries would not be sufficient for any full day jobs.

If you are are planning on doing multiple DIY jobs around the house or are getting into woodworking, consider spending more now on modern brushless tools. Once you go brushless you will never go back.

I use a Milwaukee M12 fuel brushless hammer/drill and impact driver now.

elfion wrote: ↑ I don't agree. I work about 3-4 hours 6 days a week and I would still much much prefer the brushless version. I don't know about this particular model but I have the new HP compact driver and I tried the old cheap one. Those two tools are from completely different universes. The HP build quality is almost the same as Milwaukee. The only difference is about a third of a second delay at start. The regular impact that I tried a few years ago felt extremely cheaply made. Buttons, driver motor feel, everything. In fact I like the new Ryobi HP better than Milwaukee from a few years ago because it has a nicer ejection socket (no need to pull to insert and spring ejection when removing)

Well, 3-4 hours 6 days a week is considered heavy use by any reasonable standard. This $100 set is clearly not appropriate for that.

djzapz wrote: ↑ Well, 3-4 hours 6 days a week is considered heavy use by any reasonable standard. This $100 set is clearly not appropriate for that.

Haha. I drive long-haul cargo 200 days out of the year. I would not recommend buying this Austin Mini to anyone.

I have these and bought them for $148 price point in 2019. I haven't seen them go below $128. At $99 it is a steal.
These are great for basic homeowner stuff. If you don't have any power tools, these are great first purchase to drill holes, mount TV, build raised beds in the back-yard.

I'd recommend them for an home owner DIYer.

I have these and dewalt xr brushless. I don't even touch the ryobi any longer. I build a whole deck using the dewalt. Save yourself the money and invest in something better.

djzapz wrote: ↑ Well, 3-4 hours 6 days a week is considered heavy use by any reasonable standard. This $100 set is clearly not appropriate for that.

yes, but I was pointing out that you don't need to be working 8 hours per day to need something nice. even if you work 1 hour every day, I would still invest a little bit extra and get something nice. $100 is not the point. a little while ago I posted HD drill or driver for 79, and then there was a set of both in one box around $150. that's the set that I use and it is absolutely great. I would not use it if I needed to go to a remote area for an industrial grade job in the middle of a winter. so you are much better off getting just one HP impact OR non-impact driver for $80, or both for $150, then this for $100.

stcv3 wrote: ↑ I have these and dewalt xr brushless. I don't even touch the ryobi any longer. I build a whole deck using the dewalt. Save yourself the money and invest in something better.

again, it really really depends on which ryobi you try. the regular basic ryobi like this set is just pure garbage (based on my experience with the older model, to be fair). the new HP models are amazing. I haven't tried dewalt xr, but I use Milwaukee routinely, and as I was saying I actually prefer the newer Ryobi to the older Milwaukee. and mind you Milwaukee equivalent is 2-3 times more expensive when comparing heavily discounted deals.

smatts wrote: ↑ I have these and wouldn't recommend them to anyone. I used them to build a 45 foot fence, they had more then enough power for that. These are not brushless (less power, and they are heavy.). The 1.5ah batteries would not be sufficient for any full day jobs.

If you are are planning on doing multiple DIY jobs around the house or are getting into woodworking, consider spending more now on modern brushless tools. Once you go brushless you will never go back.

I use a Milwaukee M12 fuel brushless hammer/drill and impact driver now.

I agree with you on everything except about 1.5ah batteries. they are perfect for any job you can perform with this unless you are screwing down a LOT of cement sheets very very fast without pre-drilling. in all other cases, it will either last you all day, or the second battery will charge faster than you use the first one. I was installing flooring screws yesterday. did maybe around 200 screws and only lost only about 25% of the charge. this is approximate. I never really measured how many scews I can put with a single 1.5ah battery mostly because I pretty much never run into this issue. and I never ever use 4ah batteries for drivers. it's just a waste of energy to have to carry around a such a huge battery and wave it around. Even if you have to switch batteries every hour, that's way more comfortable.

elfion wrote: ↑ yes, but I was pointing out that you don't need to be working 8 hours per day to need something nice. even if you work 1 hour every day, I would still invest a little bit extra and get something nice. $100 is not the point. a little while ago I posted HD drill or driver for 79, and then there was a set of both in one box around $150. that's the set that I use and it is absolutely great. I would not use it if I needed to go to a remote area for an industrial grade job in the middle of a winter. so you are much better off getting just one HP impact OR non-impact driver for $80, or both for $150, then this for $100.

I think the difference most people are looking at aren't calculated in "hours a day" though. The person looking to buy these tools is a home user who picks it up 4-5 times a year. And while I have the cleanest set of Milwaukee M18 Fuel tools in existence in my garage, I could probably get away with using these instead.