HOME GARDENER 1kg Overseeding Grass Seed bag for $4.97

grumble wrote: ↑ I'm very wary of discount seed. Once the seed's in, if it sucks you have to live with it. Good quality grass has a better colour, better greenup, better disease resistance, better drought resistance, better density, better leaf texture, better insect resistance, better growth habit, etc. If you plant really good seed, which is still pretty cheap, it pays off for as long as you have the lawn.

I don't know anything about this seed, but I wonder what percentage is annual ryegrass (dies in high heat and dies over the winter), and if the seed is certified weed free. I also wonder if the PRG is a good quality cultivar. I also wonder how fresh the seed is.

SomeGuyNamedBob wrote: ↑ Beyond varietal types and the proportions (which are usually listed on the package and can be compared), how can you tell which brand is superior to another? Even with KBG there's many different kinds. And as you said there's so many different variables, likewise there's a lot of different variables in growth conditions, soil types, PH, nutrients temperature humidity pressure etc. A lot of the reviews are very subjective and don't list very many specifics about their setup. What works great for one person may end up a total disaster for another. Unless somebody does a side-by-side comparison experiment (double-blind placebo-controlled), how can you tell if any of the words used on the packaging (which are all very non-concrete, relative, and subjective) are anything more than marketing?

springrain wrote: ↑ How about Turf Builder Grass Seed, 40% off and what is the difference between tough, relaxed and awesome?

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grumble wrote: ↑ Honestly, it's a great point.

The first issue is price - to hit a cheap price point, they usually have to use cheap seed. The cheapest seed is annual ryegrass, which has an extremely high yield so is cheap to produce - it also germinates fast, which makes homeowners happy (until they see it die that year). The high-end cultivars with the great characteristics tend to be more expensive because the patent owners want to make money from all their development efforts, so are pricier. I feel that price isn't all that matters, and bad seed can be expensive, but good seed is rarely this cheap.

Dunderhead wrote: ↑ What seed do you recommend?

grumble wrote: ↑ Speare seeds (premium blends) if you can find it, they often private label too. Grass seed from a good-quality garden center is often private label from speare or a sod farm.

grumble wrote: ↑ Honestly, it's a great point.

The first issue is price - to hit a cheap price point, they usually have to use cheap seed. The cheapest seed is annual ryegrass, which has an extremely high yield so is cheap to produce - it also germinates fast, which makes homeowners happy (until they see it die that year). The high-end cultivars with the great characteristics tend to be more expensive because the patent owners want to make money from all their development efforts, so are pricier. I feel that price isn't all that matters, and bad seed can be expensive, but good seed is rarely this cheap.

the brother wrote: ↑ http://www.speareseeds.ca/home-gardener

the brother wrote: ↑ http://www.speareseeds.ca/home-gardener

grumble wrote: ↑ Yep - the home gardener isn't a premium seed blend though, for that you'll want to use something like the below:

http://www.speareseeds.ca/turf-mixtures

Even for those, i'd only choose the fancier ones that don't contain annual ryegrass.

superscoots wrote: ↑ Can I buy it online?

grumble wrote: ↑ Don't think so shipped, but can contactless pickup from garden centers and some home hardwares.