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Honda Accord brake knocking on snow

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Honda Accord brake knocking on snow

I bought a 2016 Honda Accord from dealership last year summer. All looked ok and it drives fine.
However, when in fresh n thick snow cover if I apply brakes it feels like something is getting stuck. I need to release brakes completely.

It otherwise drives fine. I even got a friend to test it but when I went to mechanic it was not enough snow.

Any idea anyone?
Thank you in advance
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Do you feel a pulsating sensation from your foot on the brake pedal when this is happening? Could just be the ABS system detecting slippage, which would make sense if it's only happening on fresh snow and assuming you don't have winter tires (but can still happen if you're driving on winter tires).
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Is the brake pulsing? If not, then your ABS may not be working. Do you have any dash lights on?
Have you tried braking very hard in the dry or wet?
Your description isn't very good. What is stuck? Do you mean the wheel locks up?
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CoolDudeClan wrote: It sounds like the abs IS working and that's why they are feeling that resistance "stuck" feeling. Maybe OP had a non abs car before?
Definitely sounds like ABS.
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CoolDudeClan wrote: It sounds like the abs IS working and that's why they are feeling that resistance "stuck" feeling. Maybe OP had a non abs car before?
I never thought of the ABS feeling as a stuck feeling, but maybe that's just me. I figured a "stuck" feeling would be a wheel locking up and him losing steering control.
Still, terrible description for asking for help.
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Hey everyone.. thank you for chipping in... It really helps... Yes the feeling was that of pulsation... Never drove in snow before...and will get snow tires this time around.... Also if the pulsation is due to abs, I will say it's terrible cos all I can do is not apply brakes to make it get better... Horrible.
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do you have to pump the brakes a few times to get it "unstuck" or for it to finally brake?
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If you're not familiar with ABS, on many vehicles it can sound like something is wrong.
You'll stop quickest if you ease up on the brakes just enough so it doesn't engage ABS.
sumbhar wrote: I bought a 2016 Honda Accord from dealership last year summer. All looked ok and it drives fine.
However, when in fresh n thick snow cover if I apply brakes it feels like something is getting stuck. I need to release brakes completely.

It otherwise drives fine. I even got a friend to test it but when I went to mechanic it was not enough snow.

Any idea anyone?
Thank you in advance
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Thank you so much everyone... That helps a lot..
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sumbhar wrote: Hey everyone.. thank you for chipping in... It really helps... Yes the feeling was that of pulsation... Never drove in snow before...and will get snow tires this time around.... Also if the pulsation is due to abs, I will say it's terrible cos all I can do is not apply brakes to make it get better... Horrible.
You should have experienced ABS in driving school. Did you not go to driving school? It's not too late to go and will reduce your insurance rates.
Anyhow, ABS pulsing is normal, but it means that your tires are losing grip, so be careful and slow down. You should still press the brakes as hard as you need to to slow down. ABS will pulse the brakes to make sure you can still steer by not locking up.
Of course winter tires are a great idea and will keep your safer and reduce insurance rates.
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@engineered, that's really good suggestion... Will take up a few classes, may be... Have a great day
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I hope you have winters on the accord. Without is pathetic.....
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Why we talking about snow in July?
sumbhar wrote: Hey everyone.. thank you for chipping in... It really helps... Yes the feeling was that of pulsation... Never drove in snow before...and will get snow tires this time around.... Also if the pulsation is due to abs, I will say it's terrible cos all I can do is not apply brakes to make it get better... Horrible.
You can't drive the same way in snow/slippery conditions as you can in dry conditions, you have to learn to coast a bit more instead of always on the gas or brakes, coast and gently/gradually brake early.

You'll know if ABS kicked in when you feel pulsing and hear a crunching sounds.
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BeaverLiquor wrote: Why we talking about snow in July?



You can't drive the same way in snow/slippery conditions as you can in dry conditions, you have to learn to coast a bit more instead of always on the gas or brakes, coast and gently/gradually brake early.

You'll know if ABS kicked in when you feel pulsing and hear a crunching sounds.
please do not discriminate people for where they live. maybe op lives in Antarctica..... but it is RFD Canada so up north near Santa Claus.
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Chickennbeans wrote: You'll stop quickest if you ease up on the brakes just enough so it doesn't engage ABS.
In special conditions and an excellent driver, yes. In most of the cases, including the OP, no. The ABS keeps the braking force right near the point of losing traction much better than a normal person could. Plus on some cars it does it per wheel, while the driver will lock and release all wheels at once.
Now, if you are a great driver and spend a week braking and measuring distances, you may find you will beat the ABS a few times, by inches.
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BeaverLiquor wrote: Why we talking about snow in July?



You can't drive the same way in snow/slippery conditions as you can in dry conditions, you have to learn to coast a bit more instead of always on the gas or brakes, coast and gently/gradually brake early.

You'll know if ABS kicked in when you feel pulsing and hear a crunching sounds.
OP must have driven some kid and his snow cone and blamed it on the snow cone.:)
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RaidZero wrote: In special conditions and an excellent driver, yes. In most of the cases, including the OP, no. The ABS keeps the braking force right near the point of losing traction much better than a normal person could. Plus on some cars it does it per wheel, while the driver will lock and release all wheels at once.
Now, if you are a great driver and spend a week braking and measuring distances, you may find you will beat the ABS a few times, by inches.
In all conditions, with the average vehicle on the road today and an experienced driver? Yes, threshold braking will be noticeably better.

On newer vehicles with more advanced abs and an experienced driver, it's much closer. It is almost always better to threshold brake as your regular response with ABS as a backup.

Unfortunately I don't have exhaustive first hand experience will a ton of vehicles, but ABS performance on B7 gen A4's were only slightly worse than threshold braking, current gen Mazda's are much worse than threshold braking, and previous gen Mercedes SUV's (glk/ml) were also much worse than threshold braking. I'm sure the latest gens are significantly improved. If you are turning while braking, abs systems that can be controlled wheel-by-wheel should in theory be much better than threshold braking.

There are tests and studies out there that cover newer/older vehicles. The key is driver experience and competence. Avoiding crashes isn't all about braking.

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