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noway wrote: Not everybody. I told 3 people about my unpleasant experience. Hopefully each one will tell 10 more. Then posted it on RFD for all to see. Then called up customer service and spent 1/2 hour of their (and my) time putting in a complaint. I have decided to use my Persona gift card ($400) at all participating retailers EXCEPT Futureshop and I believe that some of the workers at my wife's company (this stuff gets around at coffee time!) will shun them too when using their gift cards. If not initially resolved to my satisfaction I will escalate until it is resolved. I will not give up. I have nothing to lose but a bit of my time. They have their reputation and $$$ to lose and they don't have the stomach to fight a battle like this, over a couple of sticks of $15 memory.
Good for you, fight the man!
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lagos wrote: Typical FS business tactic if you ask me. Unfortunately, the reality is nobody will do anything and those people who got empty handed will still be shopping at FS. It's sad but this is Canada.
I remember them doing a blatant "bait & switch" in store about 3-4 years ago. They had a nice HP printer advertised in their printed flyer at a good price - good enough that at store opening there were at least 50 of us there. They claimed that it was a misprint and did us all a "favour" by offering us a Lexmark printer for the same price. Problem for them was that several of us recognised the Lexmark as being inferior and normally cheaper in the first place. None of us got our printers that morning but FS got a lot of angry customers and probably lost thousands of dollars in sales over the following months. They've scammed me enough times that I only shop that particular store when I have absolutely no other option available. The only time I visited them this past Boxing Week was January 2nd - they are that far down my list! :lol:
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alanbrenton wrote: Nice. Where can I find more info on using 4GB on 32-bit Vista systems? Thanks pigqq!
Google the name of the product he mentioned. It could be useful but it costs US$49.

Reminds me of our first PC. It had 768KB (Is that correct? :lol: ) at a time when DOS only supported 640KB. To use the extra RAM you could use a RAMDisk and it was actually large enought to hold a program or two. At boot our PC loaded a program into the RAMDisk ready to be used. Wow, I'm still a relatively young man but I feel so ancient remembering that. And yet we could run lots of decent programs and games (even write our own) on what now sounds an inconceivably miniscule amount of RAM. Kids today don't know how lucky they are, technology-wise! :lol:
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pigqq wrote: Overlocking an everyday use self-own laptop is always a bad idea. Laptops have tender hardwares and small sizes, which would gave you a big headache on overheating instead of the fun of overclocking.
But I put the memory in the HP desktop, how it can hurt my laptop :cheesygri
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alanbrenton wrote: Nice. Where can I find more info on using 4GB on 32-bit Vista systems? Thanks pigqq!
RamDisk: http://www.superspeed.com/ramdisk.php, but costs a big money as 50USD. I did know another program named ramdisk4g in the Internet which also did the job. But I am not sure about its license type.

eBoostr: http://www.eboostr.com/, you can use it for free, but you have to restart the program in a few hours. (not necessary for using 4GB)

Bottom line, Ramdisk can use the unmanaged memory between 3.2g to 4g.
crasher wrote: But I put the memory in the HP desktop, how it can hurt my laptop :cheesygri
Desktop is a different story.
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pigqq wrote: RamDisk: http://www.superspeed.com/ramdisk.php, but costs a big money as 50USD. I did know another program named ramdisk4g in the Internet which also did the job. But I am not sure about its license type.

eBoostr: http://www.eboostr.com/, you can use it for free, but you have to restart the program in a few hours. (not necessary for using 4GB)

Bottom line, Ramdisk can use the unmanaged memory between 3.2g to 4g.
This all brings up an interesting point. Back when DOS could only access 640K it included a program to use extra memory as a RAMdisk. This was included in DOS for free. If 32-bit Windows is incapable of fully accessing 4GB of memory, which clearly may soon become commonplace, then Microsoft should provide a modern equivalent of its old DOS program to allow Windows users to use their extra RAM as a RAMdisk. If we're talking about a RAMdisk over 500MB in size you could put some seriously useful programs on there for instant access. Alternatively it could be used as a huge disk cache - that would really speed up PC responsiveness, even though today's drives are much faster than their predecessors. Come on Microsoft, make those updates available to us pronto!
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Tornado F2 wrote: That's why I'm so amazed that anybody got a successful PM at BB. It was such a drastic difference from their own inflated price, and a limited offer, so it's crazy that some PMs were allowed. Especially considering how FS managed to avoid honouring their own deal, at the price they set, by removing/hiding most of their stock until the sale ended. Very bad business practice if you ask me. But typical of FS.
yeah, that restocking online after sale ended was pretty lame... way to plan on losing customers
Tornado F2 wrote: That said, FS and BB presumably get their Kingston RAM from the same supplier so BB may well strike back with an "anything you can do..."-type retaliation during their next PrefCust sale. And I'll be there trying to PM at FS if they do. :lol: (But only after I've got the RAM I need, at the sale price, from BB first).
i'm not sure, but it doesn't seem to be common that FS/BB repeat their sister store's sale if they carry the same product
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While I was at work, my wife was able to take our FS receipt and pm BB the NEXT day. Not sure how she pulled it off but she's a keeper.
When it was 2GB+512MB, some programs were faster and some were sluggish as multiple apps were being stacked, probably because the sticks weren't parallel.

Now it's 2+2GB and the laptop is blazin. I'm pretty sure even though it's showing 4GB, only 3.25GB is being utilized due to the bios.
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zoolander wrote: Now it's 2+2GB and the laptop is blazin. I'm pretty sure even though it's showing 4GB, only 3.25GB is being utilized due to the bios.
Not that old bios can recognize 4G memory. the 3.xx GB limit was posed by windows 32-bit OS.

With large memory, one can at least reduce the pagefile and save some space on his harddisk.
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Wooohooo~ my 38 sticks arrived today! :D
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Well after a straight 12-16hrs of frantically trying to do an emergency BIOS recovery on my previously perfect working Acer Aspire 5050-5278 (I only stopped trying to fix it around 3am or 5am this morning). Almost took the whole laptop apart was about to take the board out of the housing case. Removed the hard drive and tried every which way to get it to read a bios file from a memory card, a usb optical drive, the native optical drive, a usb flash drive. I finally decided to remove this new 2GB Kingston laptop ram I had in slot1 and put the previous Crucial 1GB module back in slot1 and leave the kingston out. I was convinced the ram was not the issue as it had been running regular internet, boot up, and shutdown usage since the day of the sale.

On the day of the sale I had put the kingston 2GB in slot1 and the previous Crucial 1GB module moved to slot2. The laptop has been running Windows 7 64bit Beta Build 7000 for 5-7 days now without any noticeable problems; till yesterday afternoon. Yesterday I turned on the laptop got to windows, immediately proceed to erase a DVD+RW disc using windows explorer. At about 40-50% erased the screen flicked off and there was no response. Symptoms looked exactly like a corrupted BIOS. I didn't even run or touch anything else, the only other programs that were running was Prime95 at startup and the latest NOD32 for Vista 64bit.

So after so many hours of trying to substitute my lack of a USB Floppy to do an Emergency BIOS Flash. I just sub-conciously decided to switch the ram module positions and just leave the new one out. It booted up immediately :lol: . just under $17 spent and 16hrs wasted for it :lol: :evil: Now I have yet to find out if the Kingston 2GB PC5300 RMN2-667/2G 740617122428 1.8V BKMK16C0822 99U5295-011.A00LF 3957097-1020900 122428C203957097 is damaged or if it's just incompatible with the Crucial DDR2-667 CT12864AC667 1GB 200PIN DDR2 SODIMM 128MX64PC2-5300

:?: :idea: Any chance there's a difference between Kingston's stated "PC5300" and Crucial's stated "PC2-5300"? I'm referring to the PC vs PC2.
Zheph wrote: Wooohooo~ my 38 sticks arrived today! :D
you sir are a ram ho! Did you seriously order 38 modules?!!!!
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Ghetto_Child wrote: :?: :idea: Any chance there's a difference between Kingston's stated "PC5300" and Crucial's stated "PC2-5300"? I'm referring to the PC vs PC2.
No, they probably just left the "2" off of the description. They're both DDR2 memory.
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pigqq wrote: Not that old bios can recognize 4G memory. the 3.xx GB limit was posed by windows 32-bit OS.

With large memory, one can at least reduce the pagefile and save some space on his harddisk.
I've been reading reports that even using 64bit on Inspiron9400 people are still getting a max of 3.25 due to the bios.
Is there a way around this, I can't seem to find it?
Not sure if there are any significant performance gains between 3.25-4GB anyway to warrant the tinkering.
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Ghetto_Child wrote: Well after a straight 12-16hrs of frantically trying to do an emergency BIOS recovery on my previously perfect working Acer Aspire 5050-5278 (I only stopped trying to fix it around 3am or 5am this morning). Almost took the whole laptop apart was about to take the board out of the housing case. Removed the hard drive and tried every which way to get it to read a bios file from a memory card, a usb optical drive, the native optical drive, a usb flash drive. I finally decided to remove this new 2GB Kingston laptop ram I had in slot1 and put the previous Crucial 1GB module back in slot1 and leave the kingston out. I was convinced the ram was not the issue as it had been running regular internet, boot up, and shutdown usage since the day of the sale.

On the day of the sale I had put the kingston 2GB in slot1 and the previous Crucial 1GB module moved to slot2. The laptop has been running Windows 7 64bit Beta Build 7000 for 5-7 days now without any noticeable problems; till yesterday afternoon. Yesterday I turned on the laptop got to windows, immediately proceed to erase a DVD+RW disc using windows explorer. At about 40-50% erased the screen flicked off and there was no response. Symptoms looked exactly like a corrupted BIOS. I didn't even run or touch anything else, the only other programs that were running was Prime95 at startup and the latest NOD32 for Vista 64bit.

So after so many hours of trying to substitute my lack of a USB Floppy to do an Emergency BIOS Flash. I just sub-conciously decided to switch the ram module positions and just leave the new one out. It booted up immediately :lol: . just under $17 spent and 16hrs wasted for it :lol: :evil: Now I have yet to find out if the Kingston 2GB PC5300 RMN2-667/2G 740617122428 1.8V BKMK16C0822 99U5295-011.A00LF 3957097-1020900 122428C203957097 is damaged or if it's just incompatible with the Crucial DDR2-667 CT12864AC667 1GB 200PIN DDR2 SODIMM 128MX64PC2-5300
A MAJOR headache there! :lol:

It reminds me though of when I added RAM to my first laptop. I put the laptop in "Hibernate" mode, powered off, removed the battery, installed the RAM, then powered back up - only to get an error message. I forget the details, but eventually I decided to remove the RAM and boot up - which I managed with no problem. I then shut the laptop down completely (no hibernation), reinstalled the RAM, booted up, and everything has been fine since.

So, the moral of this story is: Shut down your PC completely before making any changes to its physical configuration, otherwise you will run into problems.

Could that have been your problem too?
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no my problem was the ram but I havn't tested to see if it was a compatibility problem or if the ram is just bad. I didn't shutdown, I had the laptop on for less than 5mins in windows. The laptop didn't even shut down. It went off like if there was a power outtage but there was no power outtage in my home and the laptop was connected to a surge protector on AC power. It happened in the middle of erasing a DVD+RW disc. I'm gonna run MemTest86 v3.3 on it later but I still have to make a bootable ISO of it to run it.
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Ran MemTest86 v3.3 on default tests using just 1x2GB Kingston module no other ram, it found a lot of errors. I went through the config options and found I can change memory timings within the MemTest86 running.

Here's the default settings I was presented with:
AMD64 Options
Rd-Wr Delay: 3
Wr-Rd Delay: 1
Rd/Wr Bypass: 2
Refresh Rate: 3.9us
Command Rate: 1T
Row Cycle Time: 9
RAS-RAS Delay: 2
Write Recovery: 3

I can also set tRCD, tRP, tRAS but the current values are not displayed.

Anyone know what values they should be for this ram? I'm running a Turion64 X2 TL-50 256K on an Acer Aspire 5050-5278. I think the ram defaults to DDR2-667.

What's with the tag at the top of this thread stating "ddr2800 @ 5-5-5-15"?

Here's something funny, 1x1GB DDR2-667 Kingston is $20 more than 1x2GB DDR2-667 Kingston http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/prodde ... 541&catid=
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-Ziploc- wrote: That looks fantastic. But my laptop takes 400mhz DDR1330 sticks. (I just took one out to see the model)

Is this compatible?
No, these are DDR2.

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