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How can the US government charge for Nexus ($50?) and then not allow us to even apply?

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How can the US government charge for Nexus ($50?) and then not allow us to even apply?

You'd think a decent organization would immediately refund the money they took in if they can't deliver their product. I can't believe the US government is being so slimy about this. This is like some 3rd world corrupt mess of a country that just charges its citizens and leave them out to dry delivering nothing.
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MichaelZZZ wrote: You'd think a decent organization would immediately refund the money they took in if they can't deliver their product. I can't believe the US government is being so slimy about this. This is like some 3rd world corrupt mess of a country that just charges its citizens and leave them out to dry delivering nothing.
Sounds like you need more info on the actual situation
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/here-s-wh ... -1.6226450
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Don't you pay the fee when you submit the application?
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dr_torch wrote: Don't you pay the fee when you submit the application?
Most people do and that was my point. If they can't supply the product they should have refunded these fees a year or more ago. The article mentioned by PointsHubby indicates they are making good progress but with so many people wanting it it could be many months before its cleared up. Emailing them is pointless of course. I last emailed them about 8 months ago asking about their progress! Not a peep in response. It makes the US government look irresponsible. You just do not take money for something without a means to deliver and if the situation quickly changes where you suddenly can't provide the product paid for you immediately refund those funds. That's ethical business.
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MichaelZZZ wrote: Most people do and that was my point. If they can't supply the product they should have refunded these fees a year or more ago. The article mentioned by PointsHubby indicates they are making good progress but with so many people wanting it it could be many months before its cleared up. Emailing them is pointless of course. I last emailed them about 8 months ago asking about their progress! Not a peep in response. It makes the US government look irresponsible. You just do not take money for something without a means to deliver and if the situation quickly changes where you suddenly can't provide the product paid for you immediately refund those funds. That's ethical business.
You do realize we pay $50 usd for nexus that includes global entry and sentri also tsa pre.

For the american it’s $70usd for tsa pre alone.

If $50 usd over 5 years is too much for you I doubt you’re flying enough to make it worth it.

The amount of privldige you get for this driving to a border city is annoying but worth it.

We’re very lucky to have nexus access.

Likewise most countries ask you to pay for your visa upfront and can deny you and not refund you.

Likewise if you lie on the application even for minor stuff you won’t get nexus and you won’t get a refund

Fail a driving test, no refund many examples.

It does seem that change is coming. I suspect the airport locations may take longer to open due to complexity of airport and physical space vs land border.

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-m ... ion-expand
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GangStarr wrote: You do realize we pay $50 usd for nexus that includes global entry and sentri also tsa pre.

For the american it’s $70usd for tsa pre alone.

If $50 usd over 5 years is too much for you I doubt you’re flying enough to make it worth it.

The amount of privldige you get for this driving to a border city is annoying but worth it.

We’re very lucky to have nexus access.

Likewise most countries ask you to pay for your visa upfront and can deny you and not refund you.

Likewise if you lie on the application even for minor stuff you won’t get nexus and you won’t get a refund

Fail a driving test, no refund many examples.

It does seem that change is coming. I suspect the airport locations may take longer to open due to complexity of airport and physical space vs land border.

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-m ... ion-expand
? None of those examples are actually relevant.
Americans pay more? I’d have paid more too if it meant I could have gotten it a year earlier. And the cost doesn’t matter if your end product is still nothing.

Countries ask you to pay for visa’s up front and may deny you? Fine. At least they actually process the applications and make decisions. Even if they fail Nexus applicants, so what, at least they were processing them.

Yeah, it is nuts to expect the government to give a refund but it shouldn’t be.

Looks like this farce is ending and they can finally get things rolling again. Couple more family members to process and we can someday get back to the ‘privldige‘d life we used to have.
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ToriW77221 wrote: ? None of those examples are actually relevant.
Americans pay more? I’d have paid more too if it meant I could have gotten it a year earlier. And the cost doesn’t matter if your end product is still nothing.

Countries ask you to pay for visa’s up front and may deny you? Fine. At least they actually process the applications and make decisions. Even if they fail Nexus applicants, so what, at least they were processing them.

Yeah, it is nuts to expect the government to give a refund but it shouldn’t be.

Looks like this farce is ending and they can finally get things rolling again. Couple more family members to process and we can someday get back to the ‘privldige‘d life we used to have.
I don’t understand what you are on about. Nexus renewals and new applications are getting processed. Slowly with limited slots and in the usa (for now)

So you had a nexus and what it expire or you didn’t submit a renewal before expiry?

A lot of credit cards cover the nexus application fee. My point was Americans have to pay for both tsa pre and global entry and if they want sentri another fee

We’re getting a deal by getting all 3 on nexus. This program is majority Canadians and it’s over seen by the us government

We’re very lucky to have this sort of access. The amount of time I’ve saved with global entry and the other perks justified my driving to the usa to get this done.

If you’re so unhappy to mail Biden a letter or something. I’m sure he cares about some random angry Canadian lookin to get on their flight to an all inclusive faster
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I've been wondering about Nexus. Are they still not stationed in Canadian locations yet?
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Whoaness wrote: I've been wondering about Nexus. Are they still not stationed in Canadian locations yet?
READ the other replies here
Start with … like the first one
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PointsHubby wrote: READ the other replies here
Start with … like the first one
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huh, i applied and paid my $50 about 3 months ago and received my acceptance to go for an in person interview. i've seen lots of appointments available but couldn't do them because of work.
really not sure what your getting in a tizzy about.
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djfunk wrote: huh, i applied and paid my $50 about 3 months ago and received my acceptance to go for an in person interview. i've seen lots of appointments available but couldn't do them because of work.
really not sure what your getting in a tizzy about.
If memory serves … *

The OP is in a tizzy cuz he has to go the US currently to have the interview

Nothing highly unusual about that, when you realize that Nexus Status is for FREQUENT Trusted Travellers between our 2 countries

BUT … lol, if you aren’t vaccinated (which I believe the OP is not )

Then under the current rules you cannot travel to the USA. So he cannot even go there for an Interview.

That’s more likely his biggest headache … he’s caught in a Catch 22

No appointments in Canada … and not welcome in the USA currently.

Cannot get around it, cannot lie (defeats the whole purpose / puts at risk his Nexus Status)

Frustrated he wants to blame someone … so it’s the US Govt who has his Application $

Oh the irony.

* Lots of threads in his posting history that imply he is not vaccinated
And that he’s frustrated with the rules
Looking for workarounds etc
Nothing tho coming flat out saying he isn’t vaccinated

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PointsHubby wrote: BUT … lol, if you aren’t vaccinated (which I believe the OP is not )

Then under the current rules you cannot travel to the USA. So he cannot even go there for an Interview.

That’s more likely his biggest headache … he’s caught in a Catch 22
The USA technically requires non-Americans to be vaccinated to enter the country, but in reality they stopped caring about this and checking a very long time ago. The airlines now all do "self attestation" and don't actually check any vaccine documents.

I'm vaccinated personally, but I know tons of non-vaccinated people who travel back and forth to the states regularly.

They've also voted to remove this requirement entirely: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-hou ... 023-02-08/

It's kind of a joke they still have this requirement in the first place.
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gei wrote: The USA technically requires non-Americans to be vaccinated to enter the country, but in reality they stopped caring about this and checking a very long time ago. The airlines now all do "self attestation" and don't actually check any vaccine documents.

I'm vaccinated personally, but I know tons of non-vaccinated people who travel back and forth to the states regularly.

They've also voted to remove this requirement entirely: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-hou ... 023-02-08/

It's kind of a joke they still have this requirement in the first place.
I don’t disagree …

But it’s still THEIR COUNTRY = THEIR RULES

The problem is if you are looking for Nexus Trusted Traveller Status … you’d be an @sshat to go against those rules
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PointsHubby wrote: I don’t disagree …

But it’s still THEIR COUNTRY = THEIR RULES

The problem is if you are looking for Nexus Trusted Traveller Status … you’d be an @sshat to go against those rules
Perhaps, but in my opinion stupid rules deserve to be broken. People who follow stupid rules are the reason that they stick around so long.
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gei wrote: Perhaps, but in my opinion stupid rules deserve to be broken. People who follow stupid rules are the reason that they stick around so long.
I tend to agree with your line of thinking except in cases like this. Get caught breaking a US border crossing rule, no matter how stupid, can come with the consequence of being barred entry for 5 yrs.

Are you likely to get caught? No likely but possible. After getting caught is it likely to get banned? Hard to say - could vary from a chuckle and waive thru, to a bit of side eye, to I caught you line a lie so over to secondary you go and possibly being banned.

Stupid rule or not, it’s not something I’d want to take a chance on as I have relatives there that I’d like to continue to be able to visit with!
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gei wrote: The USA technically requires non-Americans to be vaccinated to enter the country, but in reality they stopped caring about this and checking a very long time ago. The airlines now all do "self attestation" and don't actually check any vaccine documents.

I'm vaccinated personally, but I know tons of non-vaccinated people who travel back and forth to the states regularly.

They've also voted to remove this requirement entirely: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-hou ... 023-02-08/

It's kind of a joke they still have this requirement in the first place.
Friend went to Florida couple weeks ago and was asked for Vax proof.

So they didn't stop caring as that's still the law notwithstanding it'll be changed soon

There's lots of laws some may find stupid such as no marijuana can be brought into US despite it being legal in many states and you can land in LA or NY or Anchorage and buy marijuana legally but if get caught by US customs...you going to have a bad time

Or samething like criticizing govt in Singapore or Hong Kong...dumb rules but are you going to risk breaking it just because it's dumb?
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