How to kill a tree without before cutting it?

sherman51 wrote: ↑ Depending on where you live, this shouldn't need a permit

This procedure applies to all trees, except for ash trees. Should you wish to have an ash tree felled, look up the recommended course of action.

steph3n wrote: ↑ The tree is on my private property but I have to apply for a permit either way. One of the possible reason that they will give a permit is that the tree is dead. I'm just wondering how I can kill the tree so that I can apply for a permit and cut it down.

The tree itself is not very big, the stump has ~3-4 inches in diameter only.

Reason: I just want to replace it with another tree.


Thanks,

BDSL wrote: ↑ Um...it has a 4" diameter. With a handsaw, it would be cut down in 1 min. With an electric chainsaw, it would be cut down in 5 seconds. A shovel and long pry bar will remove the root...5 mins. Do you have soft hands??

But I am not responsible if you get fined.

exrcoupe wrote: ↑ Purposely killing a tree with the hopes of being allowed to get it removed because it died, is basically the same as cutting it down without a permit. You run the risk of getting fined either way.

steph3n wrote: ↑ Reason: I just want to replace it with another tree.

steph3n wrote: ↑ The tree is on my private property but I have to apply for a permit either way. One of the possible reason that they will give a permit is that the tree is dead. I'm just wondering how I can kill the tree so that I can apply for a permit and cut it down.

The tree itself is not very big, the stump has ~3-4 inches in diameter only.

Reason: I just want to replace it with another tree.

Thanks,

steph3n wrote: ↑ Agreed that this is true but they'd have to prove that I killed the tree...Not many neighbors around and the tree is a nuisance to everyone anyways with the small leaves that drops everywhere

exrcoupe wrote: ↑ Well.. the internet is a forever thing, so posting this question here will be "proof". That being said, until you make note of your general location, you're going to get bombarded here with questions about why your municipality says it requires a permit for all trees. In the GTA (Toronto), you do need a permit for any private tree over 30cm in diameter at the trunk. I had a dead pear tree in my backyard that was about 5" in diameter and I took it down myself.. no harm no foul.

steph3n wrote: ↑ Understand, here is the location with the link to the city's regulation....as I've mentioned previously. Doesn't makes sense why it requires a permit but that's the rule as it's private property and a small tree but that is another debate.

As for why they require a permit? I have no idea but that's what the rule is and what I'm trying to get the permit in order to cut the tree. Just asking if there's a way to discretely kill the tree.

Location is montreal. And yeah this is proof but props to the city if they have time to surf RFD and find this thread and link it back to my actual permit.
https://montreal.ca/en/how-to/apply-per ... ent=Verdun

If you don't wanna open the link:

Apply for a permit to fell trees on a private lot
You need a tree-felling permit in order to cut down any tree, regardless of the diameter of its trunk.

Reasons for felling a tree
You may be allowed to have the tree cut down for the reasons listed below. You must obtain the tree-felling permit before you proceed.

The tree is dead
It is decaying or affected by an irreversible disease
It is causing significant damage to property
It threatens people’s health or safety
Its structure has become fragile and the problem cannot be fixed
There is a risk it will cause a disease to spread
It is in the way of a building project or construction site
It gets in the way of building or installing a swimming pool
It makes it difficult to create an entry or a parking space
It makes it difficult to create an opening to provide access to a body of water
If you are planning to put up a building, install a swimming pool or create an entry or a parking space, before applying for a tree-felling permit, you should first apply for a permit to carry out the project itself.

Restrictions
The following reasons do not justify the felling of a tree:

It is losing blossoms, leaves, sap or twigs.
It produces pollen, provides shelter for animals or insects or provides shade.
Its roots are visible.
You may not cut down a tree, shrub or plant grown on public property. “Public property” in this case means the strip of land located between the curb or sidewalk and your property line.